This show finally gets on a reasonable level, with some good action between Troy Otto and The Ranch. It is unfortanely that Victor Strand is out of sight i like this character.
10 Reviews
This episode skillfully navigates the delicate balance of power at the Broke Jaw Ranch as the Clark family and Walker's group attempt an uneasy coexistence
fernandoschiavi16 April 2024
Walker's group move onto the ranch following Jeremiah's death and attempt to make peace. However, tensions remain between the ranchers and Black Hats. Troy entices a youth to avenge the Trimbals by attacking a Nation member which leads to the youth's death. Wanting to protect his people, Madison gives Walker control of the armory and raids the weapons from the ranchers. Troy refuses and attempts an assault that is stopped by Nick. He stops when Nick confesses to killing his dad. Walker demands Troy be exiled and Nick be punished for being involved with Troy. He is put in a hotbox instead. Madison takes Troy out in the wilderness chasing him away at gunpoint.
At the damn, Daniel tells Lola that she's the new boss, to be loved or despised. While distributing water the crowd turns on her and she is attacked. Despite this, she continues to travel with Daniel to distribute water while encouraging him to let go of his search for Ofelia.
"Minotaur," the ninth episode of the third season of "Fear the Walking Dead," delves into the tenuous alliances and simmering tensions that define the aftermath of the mid-season finale's explosive events. This episode skillfully navigates the delicate balance of power at the Broke Jaw Ranch as the Clark family and Walker's group attempt an uneasy coexistence, highlighting the intricacies of leadership and the weight of past sins.
The episode begins with the integration of Walker's group into the ranch, a process fraught with distrust and resentment on both sides. The confiscation of weapons becomes a focal point of tension, symbolizing the broader struggle for control and respect between the two groups. This disarmament scene is particularly well-executed, capturing the palpable tension and the underlying currents of hostility that threaten to erupt at any moment. Nick's role in this episode intensifies as he grapples with his loyalty to his family versus his growing doubts about their leadership style and decisions.
A standout moment involves Troy's resistance to the new order, which culminates in a violent confrontation that threatens to unravel the fragile peace. The portrayal of Troy's complex character - tormented, volatile, yet oddly sympathetic - is a testament to the show's depth in character development. His confrontation with Madison and subsequent exile from the ranch is a pivotal scene that not only propels the narrative forward but also deepens the moral ambiguities at play.
As the episode progresses, the ideological and practical challenges of merging two starkly different communities become evident. The leadership style of Madison, contrasted with Walker's, provides a rich ground for exploring themes of governance, justice, and survival ethics in a post-apocalyptic world. The internal strife within the ranch, exacerbated by the external threat of the approaching horde, sets the stage for dramatic developments.
At the damn, Daniel tells Lola that she's the new boss, to be loved or despised. While distributing water the crowd turns on her and she is attacked. Despite this, she continues to travel with Daniel to distribute water while encouraging him to let go of his search for Ofelia.
"Minotaur," the ninth episode of the third season of "Fear the Walking Dead," delves into the tenuous alliances and simmering tensions that define the aftermath of the mid-season finale's explosive events. This episode skillfully navigates the delicate balance of power at the Broke Jaw Ranch as the Clark family and Walker's group attempt an uneasy coexistence, highlighting the intricacies of leadership and the weight of past sins.
The episode begins with the integration of Walker's group into the ranch, a process fraught with distrust and resentment on both sides. The confiscation of weapons becomes a focal point of tension, symbolizing the broader struggle for control and respect between the two groups. This disarmament scene is particularly well-executed, capturing the palpable tension and the underlying currents of hostility that threaten to erupt at any moment. Nick's role in this episode intensifies as he grapples with his loyalty to his family versus his growing doubts about their leadership style and decisions.
A standout moment involves Troy's resistance to the new order, which culminates in a violent confrontation that threatens to unravel the fragile peace. The portrayal of Troy's complex character - tormented, volatile, yet oddly sympathetic - is a testament to the show's depth in character development. His confrontation with Madison and subsequent exile from the ranch is a pivotal scene that not only propels the narrative forward but also deepens the moral ambiguities at play.
As the episode progresses, the ideological and practical challenges of merging two starkly different communities become evident. The leadership style of Madison, contrasted with Walker's, provides a rich ground for exploring themes of governance, justice, and survival ethics in a post-apocalyptic world. The internal strife within the ranch, exacerbated by the external threat of the approaching horde, sets the stage for dramatic developments.
great
rfgtdfgvdfg19 November 2023
Warning: Spoilers
3x9 Rating:
8.6/10
Storyline: Madison wakes up in Jeremiah Otto's house and rummages through the dead man's office.
Elsewhere, Nick, Troy and the militia lure infected into an ambush.
Alicia strenuously works the water pump, but only a few drops come out.
Nick kills an infected and gazes toward the border, thinking of Luciana.
Alicia returns to Jake's quarters with the water she's collected. She cleans Jake's face with a damp cloth and frets over his slow recovery from the anthrax attack.
The militia returns to their ATVs and discusses the influx of infected. Nick suggests they mend the fences.
Madison searches Jeremiah's desk, his blood stain still there from the murder that took place. Some of the drawers are still locked.
Nick and Troy spot Walker's convoy as it approaches the ranch. Jake greets the convoy and shakes Walker's hand. The ranchers warily look on as Walker waves the convoy through the gate: The Nation has officially come to live at Broke Jaw Ranch.
Jake leads Walker into the pantry to discuss details of the Nation residing at the ranch. Troy walks out after voicing his disdain for the Nation and butting heads with Crazy Dog, Walker's right-hand man. Jake assures Walker that, unlike Troy, most ranchers have accepted the peace deal.
Jake shows Walker the arsenal and gives him one of the two keys required to access it. He explains they can only access the arsenal when the other is present.
Nick joins Troy at Jeremiah's grave and says that he, too, lost an alcoholic father to what was probably suicide. Troy blames Jeremiah for killing himself and leaving them with a mess.
At the dam, Lola mobilizes her group to distribute water on the street. Daniel and Efraín urge her to stay behind for her safety, but she insists on joining them.
Crazy Dog and Coop, a militiaman, check Nation warriors and ranchers for weapons at the entrance to a meeting tent. Crazy Dog tells Klah that he can't bring his knife inside.
Alicia informs Madison that she is undermining Jake's leadership by back-channeling with Walker. Madison denies that she's been speaking to Walker, but Alicia doesn't believe her.
Lola distributes water to desperate people in the streets while Daniel stays on the lookout for threats to her safety. The crowd disperses when an infected herd approaches.
In the meeting tent, Jake urges ranchers to forgive the Nation and work toward building a future together. Walker declares that his grudge against the ranch died when Jeremiah sacrificed himself for a peace deal.
Nick visits Ofelia in the adobe. She admits to not feeling particularly guilty about killing ranchers with anthrax. She asks Nick if he feels any guilt for what he's done.
Walker privately asks Madison if she's prepared to handle Troy, should he become a threat. She assures him that she is.
Troy complains to Jake about the peace deal. Terrance, one of the ranchers, points out that Walker's people killed Gretchen. Jake reminds them that Walker denied killing the Trimbols. After Jake leaves, Troy complains about the people the Nation has killed. Gretchen's death is still affecting Terrance.
Alicia finds Walker burying his father's remains in the desert. She tells him to deal directly with Jake, not Madison.
Madison pries open a drawer in Jeremiah's desk and finds documents detailing current water levels at the ranch.
Terrance walks up to Crazy Dog and pulls a gun from his hoodie. Crazy Dog spins around knocking the gun away from him. A stray bullet hits a member of the Nation. Crazy Dog locks Terrance in a choke hold and nearly chokes him to death, but releases his victim when Walker steps in.
Alicia informs Walker that Terrance might asphyxiate from a crushed throat. Walker worries that other ranchers will follow Terrance's example and demands the second arsenal key from Jake so that his people can arm themselves. Madison takes Walker's side and urges Jake to let the Nation control the weapons and sweep the ranch for all remaining weapons. Jake reluctantly gives Walker the key.
Cooper and Klah knock on the Twomey family's trailer and ask to collect their weapons. Throughout the rest of the ranch, the militia and Walker's men collect weapons from all the residents.
Nick tells Madison that he can handle Troy, but Madison worries that Troy will kill Nick if he finds out that Nick killed Jeremiah. Nick is not sure what reaction he will have.
Madison, Nick and Walker go to Jeremiah's house to collect weapons from Troy. When Walker heads upstairs to check the house, Troy grabs a gun from Jeremiah's desk ordering everyone out. Nick stands in the way of Troy, who fires a warning shot into the ceiling. Everyone clears out. Nick stays behind with Troy.
Madison promises Walker that she can fix the situation with Troy and Nick.
Inside, Troy opens a secret cache of weapons and suggests they snipe Walker's people from upstairs. Nick urges Troy to honor Jeremiah's self-sacrifice and stand down. Troy's mind is made up. He hands Nick a rifle.
Madison urges Troy and Nick to disarm, but they're interrupted by gunfire from the Nation. Troy fires back. Someone pulls Madison out of harm's way.
Walker's men enter Jeremiah's home and open fire. Troy saves Nick from Crazy Dog and gets a knife through the hand in the process. Nick and Troy take cover in an upstairs bedroom. Troy prepares for his final stand.
At the dam, Lola counsels Daniel to stop looking for Ofelia. She needs him and is worried his hope will only lead to heartbreak.
Nick pleads with Troy to give up the fight. Nick finally confesses to Troy that he killed Jeremiah. Troy is stunned and aims his gun at Nick but decides not to shoot. He's broken by the news about his father. Walker's men barge into the room.
The next day, Madison and Walker discuss punishments for Troy and Nick. Madison worries that killing Troy would only turn him into a martyr, so they agree to exile him. Madison forbids Walker from killing Nick or exiling him.
Lola and Efraín distribute water to a crowd. A man accuses them of controlling the dam for personal gain. Daniel rushes Lola to the truck as the crowd turns on them and attacks. They drive off.
Jake tells Troy the punishment that's been handed down. Troy takes the news in stride and insists that Madison is the one who takes him into exile.
Walker gives Troy provisions, a knife, a gun and one bullet, in case he doesn't want to live. A man of the Nation escorts Nick to an outhouse for imprisonment. Madison and Klah get in a truck to drive Troy into the desert.
Madison parks in the middle of the desert. Troy gets a hold of Klah's knife and stabs Klah, wounding him. Madison aims a gun at Troy and orders him to go. He wrestles her and reveals that he knows about Nick killing Jeremiah. Madison regains control and points the gun at him.
Troy walks off into the desert alone.
Storyline: Madison wakes up in Jeremiah Otto's house and rummages through the dead man's office.
Elsewhere, Nick, Troy and the militia lure infected into an ambush.
Alicia strenuously works the water pump, but only a few drops come out.
Nick kills an infected and gazes toward the border, thinking of Luciana.
Alicia returns to Jake's quarters with the water she's collected. She cleans Jake's face with a damp cloth and frets over his slow recovery from the anthrax attack.
The militia returns to their ATVs and discusses the influx of infected. Nick suggests they mend the fences.
Madison searches Jeremiah's desk, his blood stain still there from the murder that took place. Some of the drawers are still locked.
Nick and Troy spot Walker's convoy as it approaches the ranch. Jake greets the convoy and shakes Walker's hand. The ranchers warily look on as Walker waves the convoy through the gate: The Nation has officially come to live at Broke Jaw Ranch.
Jake leads Walker into the pantry to discuss details of the Nation residing at the ranch. Troy walks out after voicing his disdain for the Nation and butting heads with Crazy Dog, Walker's right-hand man. Jake assures Walker that, unlike Troy, most ranchers have accepted the peace deal.
Jake shows Walker the arsenal and gives him one of the two keys required to access it. He explains they can only access the arsenal when the other is present.
Nick joins Troy at Jeremiah's grave and says that he, too, lost an alcoholic father to what was probably suicide. Troy blames Jeremiah for killing himself and leaving them with a mess.
At the dam, Lola mobilizes her group to distribute water on the street. Daniel and Efraín urge her to stay behind for her safety, but she insists on joining them.
Crazy Dog and Coop, a militiaman, check Nation warriors and ranchers for weapons at the entrance to a meeting tent. Crazy Dog tells Klah that he can't bring his knife inside.
Alicia informs Madison that she is undermining Jake's leadership by back-channeling with Walker. Madison denies that she's been speaking to Walker, but Alicia doesn't believe her.
Lola distributes water to desperate people in the streets while Daniel stays on the lookout for threats to her safety. The crowd disperses when an infected herd approaches.
In the meeting tent, Jake urges ranchers to forgive the Nation and work toward building a future together. Walker declares that his grudge against the ranch died when Jeremiah sacrificed himself for a peace deal.
Nick visits Ofelia in the adobe. She admits to not feeling particularly guilty about killing ranchers with anthrax. She asks Nick if he feels any guilt for what he's done.
Walker privately asks Madison if she's prepared to handle Troy, should he become a threat. She assures him that she is.
Troy complains to Jake about the peace deal. Terrance, one of the ranchers, points out that Walker's people killed Gretchen. Jake reminds them that Walker denied killing the Trimbols. After Jake leaves, Troy complains about the people the Nation has killed. Gretchen's death is still affecting Terrance.
Alicia finds Walker burying his father's remains in the desert. She tells him to deal directly with Jake, not Madison.
Madison pries open a drawer in Jeremiah's desk and finds documents detailing current water levels at the ranch.
Terrance walks up to Crazy Dog and pulls a gun from his hoodie. Crazy Dog spins around knocking the gun away from him. A stray bullet hits a member of the Nation. Crazy Dog locks Terrance in a choke hold and nearly chokes him to death, but releases his victim when Walker steps in.
Alicia informs Walker that Terrance might asphyxiate from a crushed throat. Walker worries that other ranchers will follow Terrance's example and demands the second arsenal key from Jake so that his people can arm themselves. Madison takes Walker's side and urges Jake to let the Nation control the weapons and sweep the ranch for all remaining weapons. Jake reluctantly gives Walker the key.
Cooper and Klah knock on the Twomey family's trailer and ask to collect their weapons. Throughout the rest of the ranch, the militia and Walker's men collect weapons from all the residents.
Nick tells Madison that he can handle Troy, but Madison worries that Troy will kill Nick if he finds out that Nick killed Jeremiah. Nick is not sure what reaction he will have.
Madison, Nick and Walker go to Jeremiah's house to collect weapons from Troy. When Walker heads upstairs to check the house, Troy grabs a gun from Jeremiah's desk ordering everyone out. Nick stands in the way of Troy, who fires a warning shot into the ceiling. Everyone clears out. Nick stays behind with Troy.
Madison promises Walker that she can fix the situation with Troy and Nick.
Inside, Troy opens a secret cache of weapons and suggests they snipe Walker's people from upstairs. Nick urges Troy to honor Jeremiah's self-sacrifice and stand down. Troy's mind is made up. He hands Nick a rifle.
Madison urges Troy and Nick to disarm, but they're interrupted by gunfire from the Nation. Troy fires back. Someone pulls Madison out of harm's way.
Walker's men enter Jeremiah's home and open fire. Troy saves Nick from Crazy Dog and gets a knife through the hand in the process. Nick and Troy take cover in an upstairs bedroom. Troy prepares for his final stand.
At the dam, Lola counsels Daniel to stop looking for Ofelia. She needs him and is worried his hope will only lead to heartbreak.
Nick pleads with Troy to give up the fight. Nick finally confesses to Troy that he killed Jeremiah. Troy is stunned and aims his gun at Nick but decides not to shoot. He's broken by the news about his father. Walker's men barge into the room.
The next day, Madison and Walker discuss punishments for Troy and Nick. Madison worries that killing Troy would only turn him into a martyr, so they agree to exile him. Madison forbids Walker from killing Nick or exiling him.
Lola and Efraín distribute water to a crowd. A man accuses them of controlling the dam for personal gain. Daniel rushes Lola to the truck as the crowd turns on them and attacks. They drive off.
Jake tells Troy the punishment that's been handed down. Troy takes the news in stride and insists that Madison is the one who takes him into exile.
Walker gives Troy provisions, a knife, a gun and one bullet, in case he doesn't want to live. A man of the Nation escorts Nick to an outhouse for imprisonment. Madison and Klah get in a truck to drive Troy into the desert.
Madison parks in the middle of the desert. Troy gets a hold of Klah's knife and stabs Klah, wounding him. Madison aims a gun at Troy and orders him to go. He wrestles her and reveals that he knows about Nick killing Jeremiah. Madison regains control and points the gun at him.
Troy walks off into the desert alone.
More Problems At the Ranch
panagiotis199320 December 2022
Warning: Spoilers
Does Troy know that the Clarks killed his father? Nice to see a bit of what Daniel is doing now that Dante is gone. Jake leading people is the best option right now. So Walker wants to have control over the guns because a random teenager decided to start shooting people? Come on...Nonsense. Walker calling Troy a sociopath, wow what a hypocrite, like he is better. The action scene with Troy was so dark I couldn't understand what's happening. Daniel and the other woman who control the water, things got out of control with people wanting more and more, and that is to be expected. Nick told Troy that he was the one that killed his father and he does nothing? That's not very Troy-like. So Walker decided that is best for Troy to leave the camp and not kill him. I wouldn't be surprised if Troy comes back at some point for revenge. Decent episode overall, my rating is 7/10.
"Minotaur" Is A Realistic Take On Gun Control
lunasnowhehe10 June 2021
It's crazy how much this season reminds me of the current state of America. And I'm even more impressed that this show is managing to include the perspectives of BOTH sides of the spectrum in a way that does not virtual signal either.
It's scary how realistic Erickson's Fear is.
Awesome midseason premiere.
It's scary how realistic Erickson's Fear is.
Awesome midseason premiere.
Slower paced mid-season premiere which was both interesting and suspenseful
Holt3443 October 2020
Stefan Schwartz directed this episode, the mid-season premiere and he did a great job at directing. The episode deals with the aftermath of Jeremiah Sr's death which was caused by Nick shooting him in the head but it was supposed to be Madison. The feud is over between Otto and Walker, but will that be enough? This episode really slows the pacing down a bit to focus more on character development and world building on the next plot we'll follow, an interesting plot point that will involve the Dam more. But saying that this episode isn't suspenseful or fast paced you're wrong as there is some characters that want the old ways to return like Troy.
There are some fine performances in this episode, Daniel Sharman is one of those that really stood out from the rest. He have truly captured Troy with his acting with the help of the great writing but mostly its his performance that captures the character, he shows that in this episode.
The ones who were mortal enemies with Walker is dead, and the rest of the people were simply scared but most of the killings was based on lies as Walker killed those responsible for his father and family's death and it was the founding members that killed all of his family members. He wanted revenge so he killed the founding members except for the one Troy killed, with killing them he had to kill the ones that were with them. It's justified in a way, the Clark family had been on the wrong side the entire time. I don't find it stupid that the two group of people share the same home now, as they didn't want to do them any harm.
There are some fine performances in this episode, Daniel Sharman is one of those that really stood out from the rest. He have truly captured Troy with his acting with the help of the great writing but mostly its his performance that captures the character, he shows that in this episode.
The ones who were mortal enemies with Walker is dead, and the rest of the people were simply scared but most of the killings was based on lies as Walker killed those responsible for his father and family's death and it was the founding members that killed all of his family members. He wanted revenge so he killed the founding members except for the one Troy killed, with killing them he had to kill the ones that were with them. It's justified in a way, the Clark family had been on the wrong side the entire time. I don't find it stupid that the two group of people share the same home now, as they didn't want to do them any harm.
A good start, but no great
MomentIMDB24 September 2019
Warning: Spoilers
We started the second half with a quiet but interesting episode. Walker and his group move to the ranch. This creates a lot of tension. Troy and other Arman execute a plan to kill the walker people. This situation produces that measures are taken to maintain serenity. Jack gives Walker the two keys to the arms supply. Troy opposed the idea. Walker sends people to kill him, Nick and Troy get caught in a shooting. Nick reveals to Troy that he killed his father. Troy is shocked. Madison decides to expel him and Walker locks Nick in a box. Daniel and Lola took control of the dam, so they decided to distribute water. people get angry and decide to attack them, something forced. In the end Madison, a man of walker and troy stop. The latter kills the walker man. Madison and Troy have a fight. Madison beats him and lets him go. madison badass
Horrible Writing; Characters Acted Irrationally
swalker8083 October 2023
Warning: Spoilers
The characters in this episode acted completely irrationally. This episode showcases increidbly lazy writing. Below are examples of this awful writing:
Example 1: Why did Nick stay in the house with Troy instead of leaving before the firefight broke out, when Nick had no intention of fighting?
Example 2: Why do they act like Nick was complicit and joined Troy, when the whole time all the characters (the Natives included) saw that Nick was trying to diffuse the tension the entire time? It doesn't make any sense why Nick is being punished.
Example 3: Why, at the end, would they only send Madison and one of the Natives to exile Troy, and why would the guy in the truck cut Troy lose at point blank range so Troy could kill him??? This was so predictable.
Example 1: Why did Nick stay in the house with Troy instead of leaving before the firefight broke out, when Nick had no intention of fighting?
Example 2: Why do they act like Nick was complicit and joined Troy, when the whole time all the characters (the Natives included) saw that Nick was trying to diffuse the tension the entire time? It doesn't make any sense why Nick is being punished.
Example 3: Why, at the end, would they only send Madison and one of the Natives to exile Troy, and why would the guy in the truck cut Troy lose at point blank range so Troy could kill him??? This was so predictable.
A series of unfortunately incredulous decisions...
alexgriffin-2833114 October 2017
Warning: Spoilers
This episode angered me enough to feel compelled to both rate, review, and more importantly stop watching the show.
Whilst 'Fear the Walking Dead' has always been to me a mediocre tonic to fill the void while waiting for it's sister show 'The Walking Dead' to air, I've enjoyed the development of the characters and narrative to stick with it thus far, however this episode was so unbelievable with the decisions made by it's protagonists, it shattered any sense of reality in the show to devastating effect.
Without giving away too many spoilers... WHAT community would welcome into their home, the permanent settling of a peoples who were only the day before regarded as mortal enemies, with both sides trying to murder one another? As if this isn't ridiculous enough, to then - after an inevitable incident of attempted violence - give away all weaponry to this new contingent of the camp. These are not the actions of people who we are supposed to support in their bid for survival in the most inhospitable of post-apocalyptic environments.
We also see the lead protagonist allow her son to be (WRONGLY) punished by these newcomers, only for him to nearly die for his unnoticed good deed, with almost no attempt by her to release him from his torture, despite being one of the apparent leaders of the community.
One major implausible action by the characters we as an audience are supposed to root for is bad enough, yet perhaps forgivable, but for a series of such woefully written plot-turns clearly designed to make things more eventful is enough to put this Luke-warm fan off the show.
Whilst 'Fear the Walking Dead' has always been to me a mediocre tonic to fill the void while waiting for it's sister show 'The Walking Dead' to air, I've enjoyed the development of the characters and narrative to stick with it thus far, however this episode was so unbelievable with the decisions made by it's protagonists, it shattered any sense of reality in the show to devastating effect.
Without giving away too many spoilers... WHAT community would welcome into their home, the permanent settling of a peoples who were only the day before regarded as mortal enemies, with both sides trying to murder one another? As if this isn't ridiculous enough, to then - after an inevitable incident of attempted violence - give away all weaponry to this new contingent of the camp. These are not the actions of people who we are supposed to support in their bid for survival in the most inhospitable of post-apocalyptic environments.
We also see the lead protagonist allow her son to be (WRONGLY) punished by these newcomers, only for him to nearly die for his unnoticed good deed, with almost no attempt by her to release him from his torture, despite being one of the apparent leaders of the community.
One major implausible action by the characters we as an audience are supposed to root for is bad enough, yet perhaps forgivable, but for a series of such woefully written plot-turns clearly designed to make things more eventful is enough to put this Luke-warm fan off the show.
IGNORANCE: Military, Political, Historical, Sociological, Psychological, and Existential
Eradan22 October 2018
Warning: Spoilers
Three points:
1. The defeatism and sniveling cowardice of the Clarks (irl the writers & producers) aside, nothing that we saw on screen ever established that Walker and his gang could have taken the ranch by assault. Even after all their losses due to Ofelia's treachery, the ranch still had as many people as Walker did and more guns and ammunition. The only weapon Walker had that the ranch people didn't have was the heavy machine gun mounted on the jeep and anyone who tried to use that would be totally vulnerable to being picked off by snipers. That M2 would be deadly while the gunner lasted but he wouldn't have lasted very long.
I might add that there's no logical reason why the Ottos and their followers wouldn't have equipped themselves with a whole arsenal of heavy weapons of their own. After all, when we first met them, they were in the process of looting the giant USMC base at San Diego. What exactly do the writers and producers of this idiot show think the Marines kept there anyway?
The military ignorance on display in this episode (and in the entire plot arc in fact) is almost bottomless.
2. The idea that the ranch people would just surrender is utterly ridiculous. The adult population of the ranch was a self-selected group of conservative survivalists. That means they were tough-minded, armed ideologues to begin with and that's BEFORE the zombie apocalypse confirmed their basic take on reality was 100% correct, not to mention it was before said apocalypse got them in the habit of actually USING all those lethal toys they'd been collecting for decades.
The political and existential ignorance on display here is off the charts.
3. The idea that two groups who had been killing each other in large numbers for weeks before could just suddenly settle down and live together in peace is ridiculous. These were fairly small groups to begin with which meant every single person in either camp was family or friends with not one but multiple victims of the feud. People do not simply forgive things like that, least of all people with guns who are accustomed to using them. The writers are seriously suggesting that a couple of short speeches about "peace" and "brotherhood" would cancel out the effect of having people's fathers, brothers, and sons KILLED?
The historical, sociological, and psychological ignorance here is mind-boggling.
The previous reviewer, alexgriffin-28331, was far too generous to this wretched piece of propaganda. Alex gave it a '2'; my rating is ONE. Furthermore, on this basis of this ep (and the last), I have also downgraded my rating for the entire series from '5' to '1'.
1. The defeatism and sniveling cowardice of the Clarks (irl the writers & producers) aside, nothing that we saw on screen ever established that Walker and his gang could have taken the ranch by assault. Even after all their losses due to Ofelia's treachery, the ranch still had as many people as Walker did and more guns and ammunition. The only weapon Walker had that the ranch people didn't have was the heavy machine gun mounted on the jeep and anyone who tried to use that would be totally vulnerable to being picked off by snipers. That M2 would be deadly while the gunner lasted but he wouldn't have lasted very long.
I might add that there's no logical reason why the Ottos and their followers wouldn't have equipped themselves with a whole arsenal of heavy weapons of their own. After all, when we first met them, they were in the process of looting the giant USMC base at San Diego. What exactly do the writers and producers of this idiot show think the Marines kept there anyway?
The military ignorance on display in this episode (and in the entire plot arc in fact) is almost bottomless.
2. The idea that the ranch people would just surrender is utterly ridiculous. The adult population of the ranch was a self-selected group of conservative survivalists. That means they were tough-minded, armed ideologues to begin with and that's BEFORE the zombie apocalypse confirmed their basic take on reality was 100% correct, not to mention it was before said apocalypse got them in the habit of actually USING all those lethal toys they'd been collecting for decades.
The political and existential ignorance on display here is off the charts.
3. The idea that two groups who had been killing each other in large numbers for weeks before could just suddenly settle down and live together in peace is ridiculous. These were fairly small groups to begin with which meant every single person in either camp was family or friends with not one but multiple victims of the feud. People do not simply forgive things like that, least of all people with guns who are accustomed to using them. The writers are seriously suggesting that a couple of short speeches about "peace" and "brotherhood" would cancel out the effect of having people's fathers, brothers, and sons KILLED?
The historical, sociological, and psychological ignorance here is mind-boggling.
The previous reviewer, alexgriffin-28331, was far too generous to this wretched piece of propaganda. Alex gave it a '2'; my rating is ONE. Furthermore, on this basis of this ep (and the last), I have also downgraded my rating for the entire series from '5' to '1'.
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