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5/10
Back to all the old vices
matzucker12 April 2024
Episode 2 was actually pretty good, but I had already feared that it might not last. I was right. This week's episode brings back all the worst tendencies the show has exhibited for years. Minimal advancement of the larger story, because the season arc again is (perhaps) not meaty enough to carry an entire season. Flashy effects set pieces for apparently no other reason than to change the otherwise dull pace. No significant interest in actual believable human drama, but instead melodramatic soap opera dynamics and shortcuts to deliver Hallmark-esque platitudes.

Chief example is their overuse of the word "connect". It always seems to come down to "connecting" and touchy-feely faux-emotional solutions. Where's the science? Reason? Logic? Or if not those: suspense, mystery, sense of wonder? All such things mark science fiction as a genre, and Star Trek in particular. Discovery keeps claiming that these things is what it's interested in, but really it's all about sentimentality.

Callum Keith Rennie and his character remain a bright spot in a mostly one-note ensemble (Rapp, Wiseman and del Barrio being the worst offenders) as a focused professional with an edge, but they set him up this way just so he can be lectured by a sanctimonious subordinate about how professionalism should take a backseat to being friends with everybody. I don't know why the writers think such representation will endear anyone to Tilly.
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6/10
Weak dialogue / acting
kue-2323213 April 2024
The writing is not as good as the previous seasons. The story lines are on par with other serial Treks, but the dialogue seems to be lacking. It feels and sounds too simplistic - as if they tried to dumb it down. It generally doesn't fit with the characters as they were developed the last four seasons. Sometimes yes, most times no.

Having said that, Wilson Cruz did a masterful job of switching character. It was more of his acting ability than the writing.

We also definitely need more Reno.

Don't know why they keep the Gray / Adira storyline in place. It's nothing more than filler, maybe even less than nothing, due to both of their abysmal "acting" abilities.

When Adira was first introduced, she was this teenage genius, but due to their lack of acting prowess they never expanded that storyline. They only have one acting mode: twitch and stutter each line they are given to say.

Gray was and still is equivalent to furniture; adds nothing to the franchise but burn through minutes each episode. If the two never existed, the Trek universe would be better off.

I don't understand the ending narration by Gray. It is far too cliche, spoken by someone who can't narrate in any compelling way. All it does is give the director an excuse to do a flyby of characters. Why? Find another way to slip in Moll.
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6/10
Social overdrive.
ArnoudMeulendijks13 April 2024
So now we get depressed socially inept Star Trek fans?

Because being social is a choice, richt Tilly? And not a handicap, someone might try to hide behind a riggid front.

A bad call, writers. We all have our issues with certain individuals, but don't project that in general. Don't play with mass psychology, if you don't really know what youre doing.

O, and give Saru something interesting to do, or nothing. Star Trek is a Sience Fiction show, don't warp it into a soap opera or political drama.

After a disapointing previous season, there was hope with the first two episodes of this season, i really enjoyed those. Please pick up that pace again.
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7/10
"Surprisingly well written"...
TAEMO11 April 2024
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...does not mean, it was an outstanding episode, it just means that the scene stucture, the dialogue, characterisation and characters were better than normal.

First of all, Tilly and Renor: In the beginning, Tilly is her normal annoying self, she does not wait until permission is given to speak, she is bubbly, happy and cloy. When put in her place by her new first officer, she comes down a bit. And at the end of the episode she makes a good point about connecting with people and earning respect. But Raynor does as well. And while they may not like each other, they know where the other comes from. So, character and structure wise, that was a well written start of the relationsship of two characters.

The root of their argument was Reynors decision to get to know his new crew by giving everybody just twenty words of introduction time. This is not only a good choice by the writers to make his character more interesting and also helps to define the rest of the bridge crew a little better. Now we no more about those characters than we have ever in the last years.

Two more relationsships are flashed out a little more, Saru and the Vulcan and the short haired girl and the Trill. The scenes concerning both couples were not just straight forward, they was always a little twist: Saru being manipulated by another Vulcan and the short haired girl being subtly pushed to break up with the Trill despite the Trill being the one who wanted the relationsship to change. Really well written and surprisingly well subtly acted in all the aforementioned scenes. It was especially refreshing to see Tilly annyed and quiet and not loud and stupid.

Now we come to the last point, the progression of the main plotline. While not bad this time, it was not as interesting as the character scenes. In this episode Culber gets willingly possessed by an old Trill Symbiont or rather its mind and leads Burnahm and Book to the hiding place of the next piece of the puzzle. First of all, Cruz gets to act as a different character and he does a good job. Secondly, to find the next piece BnB have to solve a very StarTreky problem. Not bad, not outstanding, but not bad at all. Also the revelation what the price of the treasure hunt might be and why it was hidden so long is actually interesting and logical respectivly.

So all in all I think this was the best epsiode yet in all of Discovery, from a writng standpoint. For the episodes to get better completely we need more believable relationships, better setups and payoffs and characters that act logically and not stupid. And this episode showed that at least that the people in the writing team can write.
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1/10
Let's talk about feelings for an hour and then call it Star Trek
tomsly-4001512 April 2024
This episode is a masterpiece of boredom. One certainly has to have a lot of practice and creativity as an author to write a 55 minute episode in which absolutely nothing happens and then even receive money to stage this non-action on film. In the end, as a viewer, you wonder if you shouldn't have spent those 55 minutes for ANYTHING other than wasting them on this episode.

When Adira announced Trill as the location for the next clue in the last episode, I feared the worst: Gray. And of course you're not spared the infantile conversation between Adira and Gray, where after a while you don't know whether you should either look away from the screen in disbelief or click fast forward a few times. You ask yourself whether you're actually watching science fiction and Star Trek, or whether you've accidentally opened a teenager's diary and just happened to come across the page about heartbreak and first love.

The entire episode, from start to finish, is a collection of relationship problems and emotional hysteria (especially from Tilly). It starts with bickering between Burnham and Booker, then Adira and Gray realize that a long-distance relationship doesn't work for them, Saru acts like a wimp again and is unsure whether his engagement was the right move... and of course Tilly, whose idea of professionalism as an officer on a spaceship is to fraternize with the crew and have a few cocktails at the bar. Because everything that has anything to do with a mission is carried out by Burnham and Booker alone anyway. And since the board computer does the rest of the work, the crew has nothing to do except gossip and talk about relationship problems. During the scene where Burnham introduces her bridge crew to Rayner, I thought to myself, "Who are all these people who have never been noticed before?" DIS is the only Star Trek series in which the entire bridge crew consists of extras who are just decoration so that the bridge doesn't look so empty.

The fifth season could have been a cross between Indiana Jones and National Treasure. In space. With sophisticated puzzles, peppered with all sorts of traps and futuristic technology. Instead, we get to witness a kind of slow-motion couples therapy that somehow managed to get a Star Trek stamp on it. I really wonder why a fifth season was even produced. This whole scavenger hunt has nothing to do with what has happened so far anyway. The fact that there is apparently even a spin-off in the works with Tilly as an instructor at the academy far exceeds my worst fears and imagination.

One star for Rayner, who at least initially put Tilly in her place. Tilly has always been a huge PITA, but this season she seems to have made it her mission to annoy all the show's "haters" (aka real Star Trek fans) even more.
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Jinaal
bobcobb30120 April 2024
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Dr. Hugh Culber's narration and direction while on the final mission proved to be nothing more than really annoying throughout the show and we can only hope they do not give us something like this once again.

The episode was another swing and a miss for this show, but I kind of hate using the word swing because they did not try anything that unique or that interesting at all.

Give us some big bad villains (and not just a tease from one in the final moments) and give us something we need that will keep us on the edge of our seat.

Not horrible at all, but just not the kind of drama I am hoping for.
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7/10
Jinaal
NerdyRomulanCyberman18 April 2024
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In this episode, we are faced with finding the second clue to discover what created all humanoid life in the galaxy, a technology descending from long ago, created by a species now only known as The Progenitors. We are faced with a problem. As told by the fifth and final verse of the Romulan poem, they are meant to go to Trill. They must find someone who had a specific pattern of spots, which they discover was Jinaal Bix. He is dead.

This episode takes a slower pace than the previous two, yet still fast in comparison to the last season. This episode delves deep into understanding the meaning behind understanding what created us. Burnham and Book beam down to the planet, alongside Adira, who will confront her emotions for Gray. While they do that, Burnham and Book go on a mission with Jinaal, the man they were meant to find, through the process of zhian tara, which moved his consciousness from the symbiont to Dr. Culber.

I enjoyed the acting by Wilson Cruz as he portrays this character, freed from the shackles of a symbiont to now getting to walk in a body he says really works out. The delivery of lines was very well done and the clear differences between him and Culber are intriguing.

I was worried, based upon the clip shown in The Ready Room, that this episode would be much worse. We have seen terrible writing surrounding the experiences of Gray and Adira. This wasn't as bad, but it still wasn't great. When they discussed ending their relationship, I found Gray's attempts to twist their ending into a new relationship very manipulative, especially since only a few lines before he seemed to understand why Adira wanted to separate from him. He seemed to force a confession out of her. This is the ending of a relationship, not a Cardassian interrogation.

The scenes between Rayner and the rest of the crew were amazing and the prime reason why I give this episode a higher rating. Callum Keith Rennie and Mary Wiseman have phenomenal chemistry as actors, and their lines bounce off each other quite well. Tilly continues to be amazing, as usual, and this episode had some of her best scenes of this season so far.

Even though I continue to be disappointed with Ian Alexander's acting (especially his very fake smirk), I still enjoyed this episode. I feared the worst, and it rose above my expectations. I'm still excited for what is to come. Let's keep flying.
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1/10
Well, that was disappointing!
goggolya11 April 2024
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Another episode that shows just how bad discovery's crew really is. The ship gets a new second in command and the crew turns hostile on him because he puts work first, fraternization second. The older crew members already know that they don't have to work on Discovery, Michael does all the heavy lifting. She goes on away missions, fights bad guys, excavates ancient mysteries. Meanwhile the rest of the crew is just vibin in the lounge with a Raktajino...

Speaking of the crew, Starfleet in the future is still a military organization. And between Tilly breaking in for classified information and her berating a senior officer it just feels like they aren't taking Starfleet seriously as an organization!

Every season the story is the same MacGuffin chasing. We previously had Red Angel, Burn, DMA. Now a Progenitor tech that should be obsolete by the 32nd century because we saw a Genesis device in Picard S3, which would suggest they continued working on it.

Stamets also describes it as "technology to design new life forms, accelerate evolutions and create eco systems". Yep, Stamets just described the Genesis device.

The test on Trill was contrived. Jinaal had no way of knowing those creatures would still nest in that exact same spot 800 years in the future!

Now that I think about it, this whole season wouldn't exist if the DMA in the previous season or something else would've destroyed one of the planets with clues on it. Just thinking about how much Earth changed from the 13th century to the 21th would lead me to believe one of the clues should have been destroyed in the past 800 years. For example, Trill could've easily put a city on top of the place Jinaal hid his clue.

The writers are really doing their best to keep the bad guys in the race!

  • Discovery's crew doesn't destroy or hide the clues they find
  • They forget that the enemy ship can cloak itself
  • Trill is a big planet, but Moll still somehow finds the crew
  • Trill monks don't notice that an imposter has infiltrated their ceremony (Come on now, that's totally unbelievable!)
  • Zora, who monitors the ship and crew very closely won't notice the tracking device sending out signals (because an A. I. is only smart when the plot requires it to be...)


Also there's no explanation on
  • how does a civilization keep a cloak capable species in check
  • how do personal transporters work? People simply just vanish without ever specifying a destination
  • how do personal transporters work inside the Trill caves, but not between two boulders
  • how does personal shield work? They self activate in space, but not when a bug spits a dart at you.
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8/10
On our way to a sizzling finale?
mariekevanderleij26 April 2024
Actually, I like this episode! It reminds me of the quality in the first two seasons.

There's less baby talk, Burning isn't whispering as much and the dialogues in general are stronger.

The maturity in the 'argument' between Saru and the president T'Rina is reminiscent of proper Vulcan logic and typical relationship tension. Subtly and beautifully acted!

Also, the writers made a long overdue choice about splitting up Adira and Tall without getting all soppy about it - an elegant display.

I love the character switch in Culber - very strong portrayal, almost unrecognizable.

There's something to be said for the slow build up of the plotline to create suspension. Let's hope it leads to a sizzling finale!
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1/10
BORING
jkovacs-1020211 April 2024
Ah, I see! Well, here we go:

"Ah, how exhilarating! Everyone must be just thrilled to hop on board the USS Therapy for yet another riveting and exhilarating episode! Move over, TNG, because this train wreck of a show has nothing to offer except for pure monotony and tedium. You'll be on the edge of your seat...out of sheer boredom. Yes, brace yourselves for another round of mind-numbing conversations, as we delve into the depths of existential crises and childhood traumas. Who needs action-packed space battles when you can have a front-row seat to the thrilling saga of introspection and self-discovery? So, grab your popcorn and settle in for the snooze fest of the century, folks! It's going to be a wild ride through the vast expanse of... well, mostly just talking. But hey, who said therapy couldn't be an adventure in its own right? Prepare to be underwhelmed by the sheer lack of plot twists and dramatic reveals. It's all about the slow burn here on USS Therapy, where every episode feels like an eternity trapped in a waiting room. But fear not, for in the end, you'll emerge slightly more self-aware and maybe even a tad more enlightened. So, sit back, relax, and try not to fall asleep as we embark on yet another thrilling journey into the depths of the human psyche. Engage!"
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2/10
Boring. End with a limp.
chrisl-765-76952613 April 2024
This had to be the most boring of trek ever created. I don't mind the relationships just not entire shows with characters that have no chemistry. It's season 5 and it's like trying to build characters for season 1. And why the new helmsman. What happened to the other 2. I don't even know their names.

Discovery could have had an amazing run but this is the nail in the coffin. I could barely stay awake and thought this is some of the most boring tv I have watched in a while.

I am a huge star trek fan. But I can't get past how dull this was. I hope that it gets better soon. At least I don't need a sleeping pill tonight.
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4/10
Poorly written, poorly acted
ryplead12 April 2024
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This was a very painful episode to watch - I will not go into all parallel stories involving the crew and their new number one, or Saru, or Gray, or... or... you get the picture.

No. The problem is that the central point of the plot is poorly written and poorly executed.

The crew needs to solve a riddle to beam down - but then you learn that Moll was already there (don't ask me how, I didn't write the story).

And then a wild goose chase led by an 800 Trill who is just keen to go hiking? And fire bursting creatures? And then all this talk about how this technology can be dangerous just to give them to Starfleet without even asking how it will be used?

Ohhhhh. Painful. Silly.
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1/10
Thank God this series has been cancelled
probabilitysurfing15 April 2024
Horrid. Again. Thank God this series has been cancelled. Tilly has morphed from an insecure brain-dead motor-mouth into a self-righteous Karen, lecturing others, including superior officers. Adding to that silliness, that superior officer takes his comeuppance in stride, as a weakling 2024 male should when he is corrected by a female. The amount of insecure whiny characters in this series and this episode in particular is one thing and one thing only - a reflection of the collective states of mind of the writers. They have projected their own childish insecurities and lack of worldly experience onto the characters and created a version of "Star Trek" that is neither entertaining nor fun to watch.
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2/10
Jinaal
csimons13 April 2024
The unholy tradition of "shipper"-fan faction has.finally become the official Star Trek-policy.

The USS Discovery doesn't need a ship's counselor. Everybody treats everyone with corny.psychobabble, pretentious pep talk.and.pushy empathy signalling. The dialogue and the acting is almost unbearable to watch.

This misery is only interrupted by a paper-thin plot and the empty promise of suspense. The so-called writers have learned absolutely nothing from the mistakes of the previous seasons.and they are obviously fiercely determined.to carry on this.uninspired tearjerking ham to the bitter end of the show.
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4/10
Thank the maker for Wilson Cruz
rrtiverton15 April 2024
Wilson Cruz carried this episode, brilliantly portraying "Jinaal", the essence of a Trill host from a millennia before. Great comedic chops by Cruz to pull off a smart plot line that underscored the mission that Booker, Burnham and Culper need to accomplish.

Mary Weisman seems lost as Tilly this season; I have no idea why she is on the ship for this mission, but okay.

And that brings me to the big DOWN with this franchise. The actors of Blu del Bario and Ian Alexander have ZERO chemistry or acting ability. They bring nothing. Their characters... have nothing believable between them other than an ability to sit next to each other and look forlorn. The ONLY... ONLY saving grace is that this is the final season and I will hopefully never have to see that story arc again. So... so... many other talented actors on the planet and the producers went with them.
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4/10
Jinaal
Prismark1011 April 2024
The final season of Star Trek: Discovery should be going out with all thrusters blazing.

It is a shame that after a promising opening two episodes. This is a safe listless episode with the A, B and a C plot.

It was a bit of a snoozefest. T'Rina and Saru's bump in their relationship before officially announcing their engagement. The president marrying a non Vulcan or Romulan might cause waves. It seems T'Rina and Saru never discussed the implications of their cross species relationship.

The new First Officer Rayner wanting to spend 20 seconds to get to know his new crew. He was essentially being a Captain Jellico lite.

Even Burnham's and Book's quest in the planet of the Trill's only livened up when they got chased by the Itronoks.

A glacial pace but the biggest problem. It wanted to be like a Star Trek: TNG episode of the late 1980s. Discovery should be following its own course.
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3/10
I'm impressed at the people's ability to write detailed reviews
sysstemlord20 April 2024
When I watched this episode, I had to prevent myself from feeling sick because of all the bad acting and bad dialogue. How can people tolerate the cringiness and write objective reviews?

It's always this same specific type of emotional reaction from all the characters and especially Adira.

All conversations are emotional support, and avoiding any word that may cause some feeling of discomfort, God forbids.

Even children's animated movies contains more realistic emotional reactions.

It really feels like the people who create these episodes are afraid of something, and they try to walk between mines while writing the dialogue.

I wish they allow the creativity run free without being tied by the chains of social acceptance.
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1/10
Terrible
praxus-3205727 April 2024
I've been watching Star Trek for over 50 years and I've never stopped watching a series until it was done but I'm making an exception now after watching this episode. That's it, I'm done, even frequent use of fast forward isn't enough. I don't like any of the characters apart from Book and hmm I guess that's it. Last season already sucked and now they brought back the irritating Tilly and the awful Grey. The domestic scenes of Saru and the Vulcan aren't working for me either. Overall its really boring, badly written, and over diversified. I'm really glad to hear its been cancelled. Indeed that was the best news of the past couple of hours and made me feel a bit better about the time I just wasted watching this drivel.
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3/10
Worse Star Trek ever seen
kacpersobolewski-5984626 April 2024
I'm already tired of this soap opera. I feel like I'm not watching Star Trek anymore but a mix of a cheap Venezuelan soap opera, a propaganda program, and colorful suds. There is no Star Trek here anymore. Each episode is increasingly soaked in exaggerated emotions; it's like group therapy for aging 40-year-old virgins. A captain who must keep her cool and think logically, on which the fate of her subordinates depends, breaks down every five minutes and cries like a child in literally every episode. Especially since she's supposedly half Vulcan. It's getting worse from episode to episode. The characters are also becoming more transparent, each one the same representing the same extreme values. Scientifically, it's also becoming complete nonsense.

It's unclear whether this is the United Federation of Planets and we are dealing with serious people, or a tolerant kindergarten where everyone blows on everyone else and everything has to be fine. Everyone is so nice and polite that I just want to walk up to the TV and hit someone. Maybe they'll finally show some guts.

The first two seasons were cool, then they handed the series over to a housewives' circle. I don't know if I'll make it to the end. The last two seasons aren't fit to shine the shoes of The Next Generation or any other Star Trek, even Enterprise.
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2/10
Fuzzy space feelings
GabrielSymes13 April 2024
I like Discovery. But this episode perfectly encapsulates where things have gone awry. It's an episode of in-your-face touchy-feely niceness. Never mind the galactic peril, the imminent destruction of the galaxy. So long as there's a regular heart-to-heart, understanding chat with empathy and positivity, all is well. Don't worry about the aliens, have a hug. And of course I'll accommodate your feeling when I make plans to save the universe, because they are just as important.

The first two episodes of this season were decent. You can easily skip this one. Unless you are on a mindfulness binge, in which case fill your boots.

This is the last season of the series? If so, I really hope they pull something out of the hat. But I'm not sure that they will. Some of the cast look like they are beginning to dial it in.
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5/10
The Final Scene... Seriously?
goentropo4 May 2024
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Many of the negative comments in the reviews for this episode are very valid.

The whole focus on interpersonal relationships was truly overdone. Plonking focussed scenes for all the 'recognised' couples was just too much for one episode... Uggghh...

The final scene was a total cop-out by the writers. Yes, there's the villains in the wings for a scene ending blow. But, blow it with several contradictions. The Tal were warned. The Tal assured everyone their security was the best of the best of the best... Intense ceremony with secret rituals, the villain manages to infiltrate unseen, identify a weak target and plant a tracking device no security will detect. Undetectable, but capable of transmitting powerful tracking data for the villains.

But, there was enough to keep me interested.

The revelations which were referenced to Picard and TNG will have everyone searching for answers and info.

Plus rerunning these old episodes may result in fresh interest for TNG Easter eggs Perhaps more historical references in future spin-offs.

The cloaking beasties were pretty cool.

And, finally, a new snarky crew member will hopefully generate some better story lines by the writers... Or, has bad AI writing infiltrated already.?
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