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5/10
Five to be neutral
codexniagra8 January 2022
I'm not a Trekkie so I'm not really bothered about what this show "should" be and I can see the value in a TV show that caters to people who want to have the characters psychoanalysed in response to their trauma using metaphors to mirror what's happening irl...

... But we weren't watching it for that. Changing the show to be something radically different after three seasons is a terrible idea. You won't somehow draw in a new audience who want to see that, they'd have to watch the first three seasons to make any sense of it, which they won't enjoy. If it's what your old audience had wanted to watch, they would have been watching something else to begin with.

It's not as though the emotions are any more realistic and relateable than befits pop-SF. Enough of the unearned, melodramatic, masturbatory speeches.
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6/10
Passable episode with marginally less unbearable plot holes
isabellacheng16 December 2021
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Synopsis: The anomaly threatens an Emerald Chain asteroid colony. Starfleet goes to rescue.

They made it sound like evacuating 1206 inhabitants was a challenging task. That's like 10% the capacity of a Galaxy class. A 747 carried 1088 to safety during Operation Solomon. Heck, Discovery's turbolift shaft could easily house a million! Just Ctrl+A and beam entire houses to the shuttle bay, maybe? But then Star Trek is never really good at numbers. 43 died in Kendra Valley Massacre (Bajor). Entire planets, or races, have population of thousands. Meanwhile other Sci-Fi IPs have more realistic numbers, like populations of the order million/billion/trillion.

Somehow, Burnham created an artificial bottleneck by funneling all refugees through Discovery, limiting transport to 40 at a time, despite having a whole fleet of Federation starships on site.

Burnham, who was in charge of the evacuation while Saru would command Discovery, personally went to rescue some prisoners. Is this what leadership looks like in the future? Send Cmdr Rhys or Nilsson perhaps?

They also managed to rip off Battleship (2012)'s attack-spinning-gear-thingie (shredder drones) and put them in... landmine beetles? Creativity 120%!

Meanwhile the scientists studying the anomaly have to do it onboard Discovery during the evacuation, instead of researching it in a lab somewhere safe. They couldn't wait an hour till the evacuation's complete, and elect to do something that would threaten the whole crew to get extra power.

Also, yelling at people is good. Yelling at your commander is great! That's the moral lesson.

In the end, we do have a few reasonable story arcs: moral dilemma in the prisoner rescue, Dr. Culber's struggle, and two mad scientists running a dangerous experiment. Whether they fit together in the same episode is another story, but individually they resemble the theme of a traditional Star Trek episode. Hence I give this a 6/10, the highest score I've given in this season thus far. Let's hope the writers stay on "trek".
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5/10
The Examples
Prismark1018 December 2021
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Star Trek Discovery suddenly remembered that they they have a central season arc. The DMA that they have declined to bother too much about in the last few episodes.

An arrogant scientist called Tarka arrives to study it. The DMA might be sentient and may also had been created by some unknown powerful race.

Stamets is at first wary of Tarka. However the latter has a hidden agenda and has a way of using people's emotions.

As for Burnham and Book. They go on a planet that is about to be destroyed to rescue prisoners that have been left to die. It seems most of them were imprisoned for life for minor crimes. The rulers of the doomed planet forgot that they will soon all be refugees.

It was notable that Rhys one of the bridge crew accompanied Burnham and Book so he can have a character moment.

A better episode this week. Only because the DMA has some interesting aspects to it. The problem about trying to be like the old Star Trek shows. That was a long form series, so you had filler episodes about Data's quest to be more like Pinocchio.

Some people liked it, I found it dull knowing the producers were biding time so they have the budget for a more action packed story.

Once again Star Trek: Discovery finds itself stuck. A shorter form big budget series that hits the brakes too often thinking exploring stories that were done over 50 years ago or over 30 years ago will excite the crowd.
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7/10
Finally some classic Star Trek stuff
stjhagens16 December 2021
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Besides the occasional whispering and tearing up, this was a decent Star Trek episode.

There was humour, science stuff, banter, moral and ethical dilemma's, some new and interesting developments regarding the DMA and less focus on Burnham.

There were some heart to heart talks but they were earned and had the right length. I really enjoyed the Culber -Kovich talk, it is a natural consequence of Culbers experiences so far. I really enjoyed the Tarka-Book talk at the end too. Tarka is a strong character and a great addition to the cast this episode.

Just for the USS Janeway and the presence of Reno I'm inclined to rate this episode even higher. How I missed her snarky and sarcastic humour!

Again a snippet of backstory for a bridge member. We now know Owo is from a tribal village and can hold her breath a long time, Bryce likes to surf and Rhys was evacuated by Starfleet from a natural disaster at young age. Please keep this coming and flesh out these characters some more. One question: where were Owo and Detmer?

All in all I enjoyed this episode quite a lot and it is a step in the right direction for season 4! I have been hard on Disco these last few episodes but if continues like this last episode it might actually redeem itself.
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10/10
Star Treks Core Values
LtdMarcel10 January 2022
This is a wonderful Star Trek epsiode which has everything in it, what makes it Star Trek! Questions of humanity, technological challenges, some fine acting and good looking FX as well as nice references to the Star Trek universe.

I don't get the many negative reviews. Star Trek has evolved, and I have known Star Trek for 25 years! And imho it has evolved in a very good direction!

Please keep up the good work, everyone who is involved in the making of that show :)

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7/10
That's better...
ameaglemike16 December 2021
Now we are getting back to the traditional "Star Trek" episode recipe we all know and love. The past couple episodes have been borderline awful, but this one has climbed back up a few notches.

It was nice to see multiple story arcs going on at once, and it was also very refreshing to see Burnham wasn't the saving grace of all. Let's hope the rest of the season is more like this episode and not like episodes 4.3 and 4.4.
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4/10
Only slightly less terrible this week.
robertkrumel20 December 2021
Preaching at us, whispering, forgettable characters-this episode has it all. Not quite as cringy as last week but still dreadfully boring. Little character development and still no reason to care about this crew.
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10/10
star trek discovery: the examples
justin-6602717 December 2021
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I really liked the way michael greyeyes showed an example of how every lives matter. It really speaks about the native movement that's happened about the atrocities that happened to the native people and how today they are arrested and detained in prison for petty crimes.
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6/10
A little better
nedim-1375317 December 2021
Slightly better. Still there are so much dumb plots and stuff in general, and probably it doesnt deserve 6, but its improvement so I will give it.

Burham was just slightly less annoying than usual, she even almost havent whisper at all!
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1/10
Wow.
tina-262-32020217 December 2021
In a situation where every second could literally mean the life or death of all around you, don't forget to stop and take up valuable time to state/discuss/evaluate your feelings or the feelings of those around you.

If this is the future of mankind, we won't last long enough to make first contact.
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9/10
Great episode
warpgiga18 December 2021
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I enjoyed this episode, albeit the main story (evacuate, free prisoners, time is ticking) is pretty simple it's very much Star Trek, and that is after all what I seek in this.

DMA arc story is also progressing nicely, not too impressed by the whole experiment drama (we need more power!! But but you can't have it!! But we NEED IT!! Okay fine!) but it's alright. The new science guy was interesting, and I hope he comes back in future episodes.

One weird flaw; The prison escape took place with no communication because of the prison shield, but the captain then suddenly hands over a small "phone" to the remaining prisoner allowing him to talk with her while she is in the ship... what!?
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7/10
First decent episode since season 2
rookinherrookery9 January 2022
It wasn't brilliant, but it was good, not the sloppy emotional schlock they've been serving since season 3 started. David Cronenberg shows up again and is, of course, immaculate.
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3/10
An improvement
pjdickinson-2782216 December 2021
This one's mildly better than the atrocious nonsense that preceded it this season but it still has major flaws. Burnham (blessed be the Burnham for she is the light that guides us. We are blessed) knows how to fix everything. She displays emotional depth through whispers as usual. There's still far too much crying and whining. We get an interesting male character in this episode so he's obviously up to no good. The absence of the stupendously incompetent Tilly is much appreciated in this episode and we learn that Culber and Stamets wear more clothes in bed than most people wear during their shift in this show. Book sulks on. I could lie and say I'm excited for future episodes but what would be the point? Burnham (you know the drill) will save the universe.
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ST: Therapy
dusadomovine16 December 2021
I watched yet another mindless episode. Does everyone require a therapist? Maybe I will need a therapist after watching this. Why am I watching this? I wonder. Is it a form of sado-masochism? Are the shiny "combat uniforms" designed by S&M people? Maybe designed by the same people that designed the Black Lightning outfits? How bad can it get? I am constantly amazed how bad it can get.
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7/10
Had Some Substance
Hitchcoc13 July 2023
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If viewers could look past their hatred of Michael Burnham, they might see that this episode presented some interesting factor. It deals with the whole business of risking it all without the permission of the all. That hotshot engineer could have destroyed the ship to prove he was right. We have the issue of arbitrary prison sentences handed down by a modern Javert, including stealing a bit of food to feed a family. Finally, we get into a person's right to make decisions about their own fate--a right to die, if you will. One of the prisoner that Miraculous Michael is rescuing (using knowledge that it would take a 100 people to know) feels his sentence is justified. He chooses to stay on the planet as it is destroyed. Booker is beside himself and when Michael makes the unpopular decision, leaves her alone. The episode is filled with moral dilemmas and that makes it just fine.
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10/10
This is Star trek
Allys_Stark16 December 2021
A Star Trek series finally finding its place in the 4th season, is there something more Star Trek than that? I can't think of any... Another really good episode that mix it the serialized with the season's plot that works really well.
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7/10
Again, interesting concepts treated badly
shanaandjohn31 March 2022
Multiple stories that would have been great as episodes in their own right are fragmented and each given a rushed, shallow treatment. Maybe they need short story writers on staff to help keep episodes more tightly focused.
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2/10
Slightly Better but Still Rubbish
joncase-4846317 December 2021
Oh no. The whole universe is about to end. Only Burnham can save us. But first we must whisper intently and discuss our feelings. What a load of excrement.

Thanks to this rubbish my son is no longer interested in Trek. That hurts and the creators of this should be ashamed.
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10/10
Leader
fkennedy-4158917 December 2021
Discovery continues to lead the way, in the stories and in the franchise. Plenty of haters, of course, this is Trek. TOS wasn't accepted because it pushed the edges of social discourse in the 1960's.
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1/10
The best episode of this season so far, at-least for ST: Discovery standards!
martinsmarkss18 December 2021
I still don't like 99% of the characters - Micheal Bhurnam still is the worst character on the show! I liked Saru in 1-2 seasons now he is IDK what he is now! Still, 30 minutes talking about feelings, it's not The Bold and The Beautiful where they are already is talking about feelings for about 35 years now!
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9/10
Roddenberry's Prime Directive
zgqnvkx23 January 2022
You all miss the exact reason Roddenberry created StarTrek. This is exactly the culmination of his creation. Burnhams arc matches, with emphasis, Kirk's and Picard's missions and some to what the internet of Star Trek.
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2/10
Nonsensical
michaeloneillire27 December 2021
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Burnham goes to rescue people on a colony and then sidetracks for 6 prisoners as the anomaly approaches. When she goes to release them they stay to negotiate and moan.

Meanwhile on the Discovery they start generating an experimental wormhole. You know, the kind of thing you'd do in the middle of an emergency evacuation.
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10/10
These reviewers are not Star Trek fans.
nick-radonich27 March 2022
Since Star Trek first debuted, it has always been 'woke'. Having a Black woman on the Bridge? Since then, Star Trek has always pushed boundaries. So here is Discovery, yes, the first season was rough, but it has gotten so much better. I'm enjoying this season and look forward to seeing the rest of it.
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4/10
Burnham whispers and cries
benjilee-2097919 December 2021
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If you removed Burnham from this episode it wouldn't be a bad star trek episode. Put Saru there or just anybody else but Mary Sue, it would be fine. But can it be for a while that she doesn't some how magically solve the problem all by herself, plus a bit of crying and whispering. How this series has matched Enterprise in the number of seasons I will never know. I don't think this series will ever be looked back upon fondly or for the rewatch value. Take Burnham out and it might just have a shot with a few people.
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10/10
Humility and respect
railroad-171748 July 2023
This society is void of humility and respect for citizen choices today and of old. It creates unknown and made up offenses to post on social media for 'Likes'. This episode teaches no matter a man's actions his choice is not disrespected. He still feels guilt and did the right thing to his belief for punishment, grief, and apology. Today it's my way or no way. Beautiful episode and lesson.

It also shows how to work together down to the last second as opposed to the current microwave solution society that looks to solve problems in one minute. This episode had action, fear, sadness, discovery and excitement. What I like most is I can't solved the problem. This is thrilling in that, as an engineer with 38 year's experience, I challenge myself to figure out the solution before they do, this entire season has been a mystery, I'm impressed.
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