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10/10
What about the victims?
kindofblue-7822125 January 2023
What about the victims?

I've just watched this story about a murdered child.

Quincy campaigned throughout for the rights of criminals but never once showed any interest in the victims.

The whole episode never shows any sympathy, interest or compassion for the victims. However, various doctors, social workers etc never stopped leaping up and down trying to protect the rights of criminals.

I worked with professionally victims for 25 years. The vast majority were neglected, ignored and generally overlooked by the system. They felt isolated and extremely vulnerable.

Eventually they came to me. I somehow had to help put them back together.

The system didn't seem to care about them.

This episode mirrors this.

Everyone is ecstatic that they've helpes convicted criminals in this story but never once give a thought to the dead child,The families and their grief, anger, fear and guilt.

If only Quincy had put as much vigour into helping the victims.

Actually, Quincy didnt even know they existed.

None of the professionals in the story showed any compassion for the victims.

The one person who did care about the victims was demonised and stereotyped as an ultra right wing drum beater.

A shameful episode.
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3/10
Get out the soap boxes... it's not just Quincy on a mission but Dr. Hannover!
planktonrules4 June 2013
"Baby Rattlesnakes" is the first episode where Anita Gillette stars as Dr. Emily Hanover--the lady that Quincy marries part-way through season eight (more evidence the series jumped the shark when it introduced this new character, so to speak). However, and this is really weird, Gillette ALSO starred as Quincy's dead wife in a flashback episode several seasons earlier! Talk about weird casting. But, also talk about bad casting, as Dr. Hanover is like a second Quincy--angry, loud and on a rampage for justice! Now, with two Quincys in the episode, it's a bit hard to take!!

My wife refused to watch this episode with me. Why? With the title, she thought it would be about snakes...and she hates snakes! However, snakes have nothing to do with the episode. It's more a metaphorical reference to a new nest of nasty thugs being raised by society--young gang-bangers out to prove their manhood.

When one of these young hoods is accused of a drive-by shooting that killed a young girl, Dr. Gillette and her probation officer friend (Gregory Sierra) go on a preaching rampage to convince everyone that the young man is misunderstood and innocent. And, at the same time, a jerk politician (John Randolph) is trying to play up the case in order to get re-elected. In the middle is Quincy--who Dr. Gillette incorrectly assumes is on the politician's side. However, Quincy is soon won over to Dr. Hanover's side--mostly because he's infatuated with her nasty Quincy-like style! Overall, the show is about as much fun as gargling with razors because it is just too preachy. Sure, I am in favor of saving inner city kids who can be saved, but this came on so strong I was starting to side with the law & order politician because I found the Quincy/Hanover duo so annoying!
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4/10
"As far as I'm concerned your a hot-dog." Disappointing start to season 8.
poolandrews28 June 2007
Warning: Spoilers
Quincy M.E.: Baby Rattlesnakes starts as a 9 year old girl Maddy Billingsley is 'accidently' shot & killed in a gang related drive-by shooting, L.A. coroner Quincy (Jack Klugman) performs the autopsy & is upset by what he sees. He learns that a 14 year old boy named Ethan Kellog (De'vereaux White) has been arrested, he was out on probation & wasn't supposed to be associating with his old gang 'The Ravens'. Ethan claims he was just in the car & didn't fire the shot but with an angry press & Californian public wanting blood justice has to be seen to be done. This one incident could affect the lives of many young men who are being helped by a radical program run by Rick Durado (Gregory Sierra) which aims to straighten out young gang members, but is it working & is it worth saving? Quincy decides to find out...

Episode 1 from season 8 this Quincy story was directed by Georg Fenady & was a pretty lousy way to kick off Quincy's final season. The script deals with the still very relevant issue of juvenile & gang related crime which is fine but time hasn't been kind to it & in the 25 years since Baby Rattlesnakes was made it has become clear that dealing with youth crime using social workers, Government based schemes & giving them astonishingly light sentences because they are 'children' simply doesn't work, personally I think Quincy is sitting on the wrong side of the fence on this one. One of the reasons why juvenile crime is such a problem, certainly here in the UK, is because of these namby pamby schemes & programs & because there is simply no deterrent for offenders. If a kid commits a serious crime & they are ordered to report to a social worker for six months where's the deterrent in that? These people just use the system to their advantage & they know how to get the lightest possible sentence. I know for a 100% fact youth crime is a big problem here & those committing it are literally laughing at our justice system because to them it feels like they can 'get away' with anything totally Scott free except maybe a fine & a slap on the wrist. It's pathetic & I don't care if I sound like a Neanderthal but I firmly believe we, as a society, should come down hard on these people & send them to prison regardless of age because otherwise it becomes a way of life for them, I'm sorry but that's the way I feel. Take New York for instance & the zero tolerance campaign against crime they had, it bloody worked didn't it? It certainly worked a lot better than sending these people to social workers & giving them umpteen chances like we do here. God I'm starting to sound like Quincy going off on another impassioned speech! This Quincy episode focuses on Ethan & the moral issues surrounding his case, the killing of Maddy is given very little screen time, just like in reality all the rights are given to the criminals & the victims are totally forgotten about. This is a poor episode, a misjudged episode & one which won't go down as one of my favourites.

This one sees the introduction of Dr. Emily Hanover & the beginnings of a relation between her & Quincy which will lead to bigger things. Here she asks Quincy his first name & he won't even tell her! A new season also brings with it a slightly revamped & beefier opening theme tune although the actual opening sequence stays exactly the same. Am I the only one who found that Ethan kid extremely annoying?

Baby Rattlesnakes might have had some relevance 25 years ago when it was made but the procedures & schemes which Quincy fights to save in this episode have, in my opinion, been proved not to work & in the long run have ended up doing more harm than good. An extremely dated & for a change a morally wrong episode, a poor start to season 8.
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5/10
Dismal season opener
rayoflite245 January 2016
Baby Rattlesnakes begins with a young girl being killed outside of her home in a drive by shooting. Quincy (Jack Klugman) conducts the autopsy and he later finds out that a teenage boy already in a juvenile probation program is being accused of the crime. The teenager maintains his innocence and the coordinators of the program, including Dr. Emily Hannover (Anita Gillette), a psychologist, come to his defense. They maintain that their program is working and Quincy becomes interested in learning more about their techniques as well as Dr. Hannover.

This is a pretty dismal Season 8 premiere episode where we have a lot of debating and preaching over how to properly address the problem of youth violence and gangs. There is a lot of corny dialogue between the youths in the probation program and the counselors, and in one particular ridiculous interaction a teenager is being yelled at to keep his hands in his pockets because he is caught making gang-related sign language to another. Seriously, is that your method to address the problem behavior?? While I'm sure that there are youth probation programs out there which have had some measure of success in getting teenagers to turn their life around, I just didn't feel that this story conveyed that in a believable manner which made it difficult to get on board with this crusade.

The Dr. Emily Hannover character is first introduced in this episode and I'm really not a fan of the pairing as she is an outspoken, stubborn loudmouth which is just way too similar to Quincy at times. Another annoying thing is that she is a psychologist, so you know that means more psychoanalysis and therapy story lines for this season to give her something to do which I had more than enough of during Season 7.
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