Half of these so called lost tapes are not lost, they have been available for years on other shows and the other half are essestially fraudulous because they are not recordings of (what is presented here to be) Manson assosiates talking about Manson. Instead (for example the scene with the 3 girls in identical motorcycle jacket, turning to the camera with knives, etc) they are scenes which the origional co-maker of the footage (Laurence Merrick) filmed for his movie ''Black Angels'' in 1970. (a film about rivalry between a white and a black motorcycle gang).