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8/10
Unsparing, cruel and stomach-churning
Alexios19951 June 2013
In an early scene of the movie, a grieving husband suddenly bursts into tears while cooking. His 17-year-old daughter is with him in the house, but prefers to stay away. The sight of her father crying, which deeply moves her, leaves a authority void in her life that will define her behavior as things unravel at her new school. The relationship between Alejandra and her father is of deep love, but too many things are left unspoken, maybe precisely because each one thinks it is his duty to protect the other.

But at its seething heart, After Lucia is about the abject cruelty of the human being, and more specifically of teenagers. The acts portrayed soon become monstrous,and the issues raised are only too real. Unfortunately, the ensemble lacks cohesion, and leaves many questions unanswered about the characters and the plot. Moreover, the emotional frigidness of the film, desisting any sentimentalism, may be annoying to some. The camera seems to shun the characters, and consequently never gets close to them.

The film is saved by Tessa Ia Gonzalez, you embodies a scarred teenager. The scary intensity of her gaze, at once eerily serene and seething with mute terrors, will stick long in your minds.

Even if confusing, After Lucia packs a hard emotional wallop and have proved to be, alongside with American indie Compliance, one of the most disturbing sit in recent memory.
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6/10
I think we've found the Mexican Haneke (spoilers)
josymontmartre-112 October 2012
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"Después de Lucia" is interesting although it's a bit of a show-off from the director who already did the very disturbing "Daniel y Ana". I'm not sure about what his point of view on the story really is, for it is blurred by the abundance of topics : how to survive a loss, how much you are able to accept to suffer so as to find redemption from your guilt, how fast you can get to self-justice, and on top of that, the very modern and recurrent theme of school bullying, central to the film.

Franco's way of filming is so self-consciously reminiscent of Michael Haneke, in this quiet but terrible series of semi-violent events (obviously more psychological than physical), that it is almost annoying at times. The final scene is just a reproduction of Funny Games' final scene... and I'm wondering if, as a spectator, I have to see it just as an homage to Haneke or as sequence of the film in itself. I mean... was it necessary to complete the film, powerful enough and explanatory in itself, that way ? Not sure, even if it brings some sort of balance to the absurdity of the rest.

Anyway Michel Franco is someone to watch, "Después de Lucia" is a very strong piece... but I think it's time he finds his own path, away from his apparently beloved master and model.
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7/10
GREAT with some serious problems
ggk-34-5468075 February 2013
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I saw this in Polish cinema the other day. In many ways "Después de Lucia" is the ultimate movie about school bullying.

The parts that focus around the student Alejadra being tormented by her classmates are incredibly cruel and get more and more hard and to watch. It's just depressing how a bunch of children can destroy another person life just for "fun" but at the same time it's so realistic it's almost scary. Very powerful and moving. Then when the movie turns into a dark revenge fantasy at the end it's very satisfying to watch.

I won't spoil it but something horrible happens to one of the bullies and some people where almost clapping in the cinema happy that he got what he deserve but at the same time it was very disturbing moment...

However while the 2/3 of the movie is just great the fist 1/3 is one of the most boring movie experience I ever had. The dialog is bad, characters warent all that interesting and the way the action moves was slow as a snail... I wish somebody would edit-out about 20 minutes of 1st act and get to the good stuff.

I'm happy I saw it but I'm sad to say that the 1st act truly hurt the movie... Still a solid recommendation on my part!
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The powerful Mexican cinema
Porky_Pigs12 April 2013
It's hard to watch Después de Lucía and don't get hit by a mix of feelings caused by it, like anguish, guilt, hatred and pity. And these are just a few that I felt when watching the movie. At least for me, the movie was pretty effective, mainly because I have witnessed situations just like the one shown in the movie.

The story follows the teenager Alejandra and her father Roberto moving to a new city after the death of the title character. In this new town, he starts working as a chef while Alejandra starts going to school. After something happens in a weekend party, she starts being bullied by the students.

Everything that her character goes through makes us feel really bad and powerless, seeing all that and without the capacity to help. And that's part of the superb direction of Michel Franco, which really carries the movie. Notice that almost all scenes have a static camera, and all the action perfectly fits within the frame. This gives us powerful scenes, like the one in the trip to Veracruz, where we can see students making out, others smoking marijuana, others drinking and two guys talking about something that one of them just made in the bathroom. Even with all this happening on the screen, we can't stop thinking about what happened outside of it, and it's hard to tell what just happened in that bathroom.

The camera is always far from the actors, trying to avoid us to make a connection with them. However, there is one scene with a close-up in Alejandra face, maybe to make us feel close to her. There is also only one scene (that I remember) where the camera moves, and that happens when Alejandra enters the classroom, and we see a 180 degree turn, maybe in an attempt of Franco to tell the public that the moment when the girl enters that room, her life is going to take a similar turn.

The director also made a good choice picking Tessa Ia e Hernán Mendoza for the main roles. When they're together, it's visible the indifference that reigns in their relationship. Roberto always tries to hide his suffering from Alejandra but when he is alone he cries and can't stand to drive the car in which his wife died. And even trying to show some love for Alejandra, he fails in some situations, like the one when he forgets her birthday, a fact that is not missed by her so called friends.

If it wasn't for the ending, which will irritate the politically correct, I wouldn't hesitate in show Después de Lucía to some students, trying to make them to see the dimension that bullying can reach. And let's make clear that I'm not a defender of Alejandra, mainly because the act that starts all of the bullying is caused by her recklessness. But, even knowing that she has some guilty in everything that happened, the reaction it caused was extremely unproportional.
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7/10
Abuse
westsideschl3 May 2014
Clichéd storyline of new girl getting picked on by ss at her new school. No mom, just dad trying to start a new job as a chef. Fairly good acting as father tries to juggle attending to daughter's needs; loss of wife (mom) and job. Fairly good acting on the daughter's part as the abuse at school goes too far. What makes this a little more interesting than other films of this type are the twists and the girl's passiveness which provokes the viewer into asking important questions including the role of the school's administration in monitoring it's ss. A second question was how the father and daughter went about dealing with their own problems. On a critical note I thought the ending could have been stronger/clearer.
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9/10
Disturbing film about high school bullying and loneliness
JvH4824 October 2012
I saw this film at the Ghent filmfestival 2012. A chef (Roberto) and his daughter (Alejandra) move to a city where both are new. Their wife resp. mother has recently died in a car accident, and their move seems a recipe to get some distance from what happened and an attempt to deal with their loss. Father and daughter follow their own path to get settled in their new environment.

We see Roberto starting to work in a restaurant, but his depressive mood and sudden impatience hinders him from a fruitful working relationship with co-workers. He quits suddenly, but that solved nothing and he regrets this hasty decision. We see him later on working as a chef again. But the remembrance of his loss continues to haunt him. His depressions and anger are never taken out on his daughter, however.

Alejandra seems to get along well with her new classmates, and integrates remarkably fast. That turns around when a film showing her being drunk and having sex during a party, happens to be published on Internet. That triggers an unbelievable amount of bullying by her classmates, often to such an extent that you eagerly want to look away. But you can't, while the camera is close by and does not let go.

It is difficult to believe that the young players are all amateurs with no previous experience on stage or film-set. They have a significant part in the proceedings, be it the collective bullying of Alejandra, or the collective silence when interrogated by teachers about what is going on. The boys and the girls play equal roles in the bullying. I see them showing a very natural way of behaving, even with the camera very close.

The collective mindset, all against one, is not easy to watch. Teachers nor parent have any idea that worrisome things are going on. You feel alone with Alejandra. With apparently no one to rescue her, it is all very disturbing to witness. Teachers are not aware, because these school kids are too old to need constant supervision, and have a lot of leeway to fill their own time. The parent (Roberto) is not aware that anything bad is happening with Alejandra. As a loving daughter she takes all trouble to shield her father from any bad news, observing his depressive moods. Not until very very late in the story we see involvement of teachers and parent.

A few loose ends remain unexplained, maybe only to show Roberto's depressive mood and nothing else. Best example is that in the beginning of the film we see that he let a garage fully restore his wife's car after a crash, to subsequently abandon it somewhere with the keys inside to continue his journey on foot. Halfway the film we see the same car wrecked again after a disastrous joy riding. Similar inconsistencies I have with Roberto's job at a the restaurant where he works at first, then quits, and later on resumed working without much explanation. All things considered, these are minor details.

The camera closes in on the story. The situation gets from bad to ugly, and without anyone on the rescue. I consider this a very strong feature of this film, letting us watch what happens from very close. You get involved, willingly or not. I scored a 5 (out of 5) for the audience award when leaving the theater. In hindsight, though not as bad as Alejandra, I feel a bit lonely too when seeing that this film ended on the 38th place for the audience award, in my opinion undeservedly surpassed by several films with much less qualities.
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9/10
People need to know about this.
kostkyrolga17 October 2021
There are lots of people who have no idea about what some children go through in schools.

This needs to be discussed in all homes and classrooms.

It's not easy to watch this movie, especially if you can relate to it even at the tiniest extent. But it's truly worth it. We need to be exposed to this and be open about it, because this is the major problem: silence.
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8/10
Intense and heartbreaking
farron3419 August 2013
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Let me start by saying, I thought this film was difficult to get through – but at the same time, it kept me captivated and anxious to see what could possibly happen next. The level of cruelty in staggering, yet sadly, I'm sure things of this nature happen quite often. There were several times when I simply starred wide-eyed at the screen in disbelief. I wanted Ale to snap and retaliate, but she takes it all, without a peep. Hard to believe kids can be that cruel.

Cinematically, I thought the camera work was done well. Great composition of shots, and the lighting was great throughout. There were many long shots, and not a lot of dialogue, which made the film unfold slowly. I thought the direction, and editing were done well. I liked the acting, especially that of Ia, her blank face added a another dimension to the film. Overall, a well made film, though very intense and heartbreaking, making it bit disturbing to watch.
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8/10
A pessimist but realistic and universal vision of the world, in which a simple action in the social media can make a durable impact in anyone's life
losindiscretoscine27 November 2016
Awarded with the prize "un certain regard" at the Cannes Film Festival, Michel Franco's second film deals with a social problem largely present in cinema: school bullying in the digital age. The shooting and the framing, specially the fix off-camera shots, as well as the long silences, immerse the public into the deepness of Alejandra's emotions (superbly played by Tessa Ia). Rough, bitter and cold, the harassment scenes come one after another and we enter a kind of vicious circle in which freedom does not exist. Any type of rationality, understanding or communication are in vain in this compulsory contemplation of violence whose origin is unknown by the victim and, maybe, even by the aggressors. The lack of communication and the sobriety of the photography provide more realism to the movie. Finally, the long sequence shot at the ending enhances the beauty and coldness of the whole. With "After Lucia", Michel France offers at the same time a pessimist but realistic and universal vision of the world, in which a simple action in the social media can make a durable impact in anyone's life. Full review on our blog Los Indiscretos : https://losindiscretos.org
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4/10
Overcooked school bully tale
clewis266627 December 2015
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A well made film, technically, but I found the story unbelievable. Alejandra is a new girl in a Mexican school, still grieving for her recently deceased mother. She soon makes the serious mistake of having sex with a handsome boy, who videos the event, with her knowledge, and then, without her knowledge, causes the video to be sent round the school. Charming!.Thereafter the bullying is ceaseless. My complaint is this: what no other reviewer, I think, has pointed out is that in all this class of school children and their horrifically escalating violence towards the meekly submitting Alejandra, not one of them shows for one moment any decent human feeling for the girl. Some reviewers tell us that this sort of wholesale 'everyone against one child' bullying happens all the time. I don't believe it.

The ironic ending is powerful (suitable for a Greek tragedy), but not original.
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10/10
Strong, terrible film! Moved my heart and soul and made me cry!
SofiaMinAhJoensson9 October 2014
Absolutely awful and terrible story!

This film touched and moved me deeply in both heart and soul and I felt very sick both mentally and physically when I watched it!

The happening in this film is totally and terribly wrong and terribly awful!

The worst thing is, that things like this are ongoing daily everywhere out there in our (crazy) world! Humanity is really going in totally wrong direction!

I hope it will wake some people up and also will help to prevent things like this to happen… - Let us all work together to fight against all forms of such horrifying things like in this film!
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8/10
Children can be very cruel due to a lack of life experience.
MentalReactor6 October 2023
Just like all of us, who are adults, remember some childhood events and understand that these cruel events in childhood were simply because children lack life experience, that they don't really understand empathy because they haven't often been in difficult situations themselves. So, this movie serves as a good reminder of children's cruelty. It also makes one think about the modern permissiveness, where even parents can't intervene in such matters. Harsh.

Speaking about the movie itself, the script is very good. OK-filmed. The actors are good, not much to complain about, everything is understandable. At times, cruelty reaches a high level, but that's probably how life is sometimes. In any case, it makes you think.
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8/10
Great film but eventually the idea is stolen from "C'est gratuit pour les filles"
adthuurvangils30 March 2013
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After Lucia creates unbearable levels of tension, and you may think you know how the story will develop the director has a different idea.

The movie continues with uninterrupted shots. The film opens inside a car, establishes Roberto's state of mind, trying to cope from his grief due to the death of his wife.

So again, a death person explains all the levels of emotion of which the characters are build on, a simple cliché trick too often is being used in Cinema these days. On the other hand the most beautiful idea of the film is stolen from a short film that already was presented at Cannes in 2009. C'est gratuit pour les filles by Marie Amachoukeli-Barsacq and Claire Burger is even a better film in my opinion, avoiding the cliché so called loved film festival formula of which jury members so much love. A formula as one we are able to say in Hollywood films. Long shots, poor dialogue, fixed shots etc. Happily Rodriguez avoids main characters walking through nature - as too many art-house filmmakers today have copied from the Lisandro Alonso.

But although all these frustrations that I had, the film is beautiful well made and totally an big audience worth.

Amen
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3/10
Terrible, unless you want to see a film about bullying
muri_da11 May 2013
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I give 3/10 only for the bullying storyline... This film in my opinion was a total waste of time; if you want to see a film documenting school bullying, where you're pretty much accepting to visually endure severe abuse of a person, who quickly gives in trying to protect themselves then you may appreciate the film.

The main character accepts weakness pretty quickly as she falls into depression and accepts all the abuse. In the end I imagine the intention of the film is to suggest she made all the bullies feel guilty for what they had done to her, as they believed her to be dead somewhere in the ocean, whereas she was in fact truly alive back in her native hometown.

However, I found this film could have said as much if it was a 15minute short and in reality I don't believe her death would affect the bullies so much, if people can be as cruel to torture a human they previously associated with as a friend, then I do not personally believe the guilt would be a tremendous debt for them to live with.

The final scene where one bully is thrown into the ocean is great but i'd rather it have been the fat rapist than the guy she consensually had sex on camera with, yes it was disgusting that the sh1thead posted that to her father or whoever did, I just think they all deserved abuse back but mostly the rapist and the girls because they abused her the most severely.

Better ending? If he fed all of their bodies to sharks :)
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Overall, Después de Lucía is a good film
him0902967 August 2022
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The first 30 minutes of this film feel very boring, and the story is uninteresting and uncompelling. Most of the whole scene used a long shot static camera, giving it the effect of the filming seem lazy. But it's still understandable given that the subject matter raised was bullying and it is feared that it will scare young audiences.

As the story progressed, I was impressed by the intimidation and harassment that the protagonist gets, at first she still tried to counterattack without being passive, although in the end she will lose due to being outnumbered.

I don't know why most stories of bullying are always done in groups, at least two people against one person. When I was a child when I myself was a victim, were they afraid to attack one-on-one? For what? Makes them feel superior? No, to me, they are cowards.

If only the reveal of Alejandra was still alive which she was spotted on the beach after roughly 1:17:00 was deleted. Because it's ridiculous to think that Roberto will go to jail and his daughter will be alone. If I could fix one thing in this film, I would keep Alejandra missing and her body not be found, I think this film would be much more interesting.

Overall, Después de Lucía is still a good film to show kids and parents in homes or schools about bullying and sex education.
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5/10
A bad approach
Pijo_Liz31 March 2021
An unrealistic approach to the issue of bullying. Too many mistakes here, after the second half the film gets boring with no dialogues and becomes a wanna be forced drama.
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