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6/10
Not great, but not bad
alanfiske4 September 2020
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Helter Skelter is a pretty good retelling of the histories of Charles Manson, his cult/family and the murders that made them famous. Mostly the archival footage mixed with interviews is presented in a way that coherently tells viewers how Charles Manson became who he was and how he managed to collect devotees that would one day commit murder for him. The documentary also does a good job of creating a sense of place. While watching I felt like I was transported back in time to stiflingly religious West Virginia, dopey and disjointed San Francisco during the summer of love, and contradictory Los Angeles which was both the glitzy entertainment capital of America and a smoggy tinderbox of racial anger.

But I had two significant issues with the series. The first was with the editing. Occasionally the presentation could be clunky where the viewer is taken out of the story because the choices made were ill-advised or the pacing was off. This is a minor quibble. But I have a bigger issue with the repetition of sections. Three different stories that I remember (the killing of Gary Hinman, moving into Dennis Wilsons house, and the first meeting of Charlie and Stephanie Schram) are repeated in different episodes. If you need to remind the viewer of something to maintain narrative flow you do it quickly and if you can without repeating yourself verbatim. This series makes the odd choice of showing large sections of identical video and audio during different episodes which gives the presentation an amateurish feel.

My biggest issue, though, is with the marketing of the series. The tagline "You think you know the story... you don't" and placing "An American Myth" under the title gives one the impression that the documentary is going to give an alternate motive for the murders different from the commonly known Helter Skelter race war narrative. But it doesn't. Two people in the show say they don't believe that Helter Skelter was the motive for the murders. But they don't say why or what they believe the true motive to be. The series gives information that could possibly be alternate motives but they don't take a stand on it. Besides this information isn't new. I'm a very casual follower of the case and I had heard that the more famous murders could have been done to help create doubt to Bobby Beausoleil's guilt in the Gary Hinman murder. The series also points out that the murder sights were the previous homes (or at least very near them) of former Manson acquaintances. But it doesn't give any meaning to this knowledge. So despite its bold claims it doesn't present a different point of view to the commonly known narrative of the case. It instead competently retells the same story that has been told many times before.
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8/10
Helter Skelter: An American Myth (2020, Lesley Chilcott) Functions excellent on its own but better as a companion to Bugliosi's book
hoernkeem22 January 2022
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So after reading Vincent Bugliosi's landmark 1974 true crime book I felt like for the first time I had a solid understanding of Charles Manson and his family in the sense of what occurred and when. The ultimate motives behind the murders are debatable and crazy no matter how you slice it. The book was fascinating though, and after that I had no desire to really venture into a fictional movie regarding those events which there are more than a few versions out there. In looking at expanded material surround the Manson Family and Helter Skelter I did find this EPIX documentary series from only a couple years back. I think this documentary is a nice companion piece to the novel as it is very interesting to put images and soundbites next to the words regarding these horrific and bizarre events. Also since this documentary is relatively recent it gives a very updated account on where all these players are today as this is something that only becomes more bizarre and curious in hindsight. The real coup of the film maker, Chilcott, is the inclusion throughout of the testimonials of three Manson family girls. It was extremely engrossing hearing these events as filtered through their thoughts and recollections. I will warn you this movie does have a sequence where it shows the crime scene photes of the Tate-LaBianca killings and it is rather harsh, but a part of me feels we need to absorb that harshness for time and popular culture has softened, to some degree, how people regard Manson and in seeing those images it brings into stark focus what he was about and what he caused. To me this series was under the radar not being produced by a major network or streaming service, but it is nonetheless fascinating for anyone who was as absorbed by Bugliosi's novel as I was. It is not just a rehash of the book even though it covers much of the same territory. Both stand on their own, but together bring an even greater understanding of all these lurid events.

Eric's Grade: B+
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8/10
best collection on manson so far
howboutthisone_huh24 November 2020
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I don't know how accurate this series is but it's the most comprehensive collection I've seen or read. It's more than just about the murders but pulls back and looks at the myth behind manson. I think the negative comments about his show is more about that than anything else. Manson is an american myth. He knew it. He voiced that many times but his prophetic one liners couldn't be heard by some people. Manson was convicted of the murders without actually being on scene or facilitating the crime in any way but to this day I'll wager most people can't name who the actual participants were. The media force fed public is still obsessed with this runt of a man with a charm and big mouth who was about as ordinary you can get in many areas of this country. I think more than anything, it was the young girls around manson that attracted all the media attention and where the media goes so does the public. So when manson said, "you made me" I'm not sure if he meant the system or the media, or both.

'laurel canyon' and 'helter skelter' are both great documentaries about that time period though I take issue with some of the optics. For instance, I don't think there were as many people shocked about 'violent hippies' as they claim in the series. And, I think the pictures of the victims was exploitative and unnecessary. Still, it's a well produced show, and interesting story, and well researched.
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6/10
Not bad
ex-1403528 November 2022
Very interesting but the pile of idiocies and assumptions coming out the mouth of author Jeff Guinn are unbearable, they're at best fantasies at worst projections and having listened to the actual interviews with Manson even just on YouTube without prejudices what I can see that the person he's talking about isn't Charles Manson, so his interventions bring nothing useful to the show.

The series would be really interesting otherwise, nothing new, but at least more neutral than the usual documentary on the same story, even if it can get a bit repetitive sometimes. This is a case that's been talked about for years so that's not surprising and not a fault.
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10/10
Not just a re-hash of old news
RockyMtnVideo31 August 2020
Pretty much anyone who was at least in their teens (or older) at the time of the Tate-LaBianca murders knows the basic facts, and knows the name Charles Manson. The murders were horrific, and the fact that some of the victims were well-known celebrities, made it front-page news across the US, and beyond. And before the crime was solved, some of the bizarre aspects of the murders had people speculating about all sorts of crazy motives. E.G. because Roman Polanski had directed the movie "Rosemary's Baby", which involves devil worship, some people made the "leap" that it must have been devil worshipers who murdered his wife and friends.

Why is this documentary different?

Firstly, it goes all the way back to Manson's early (somewhat miserable) childhood, and takes an in-depth look at his life from that point, all the way up to the point where he originally began to gather up followers, and undertake his more well-known communal lifestyle.

Secondly, it contains a considerable number of new interviews, of people who had contact with Manson and/or members of his so-called "family". And more importantly, it contains (current) interviews with a number of the women who were members of the "family" at the time of the murders. These are women who were not involved in the murders, and only became aware of them after the fact, but at the time, they were still Manson devotees, and still under his Svengali-like influence. Of course, they are all in their 50's or 60's now, and can talk about Manson with a detached perspective (and with a bit of shock at how much influence he had over them at the time, and how naïve they were, due to their age and previous dysfunctional family lives).

Lastly, it provides an in-depth look at the subsequent (absolutely crazy) trial, even including a current interview with someone who sat on the jury. It also covers the crazy things that were happening outside the courthouse, while the trial was underway.

The six-hour (six episode) documentary spends its first half just documenting the details of Manson, and the "family", before the murders occurred. It provides a more in-depth understanding of how Manson preyed upon young, disenchanted girls, and was able to sell them on his communal life style, as a means of providing them with the "family" that they had never really had before. It goes on to show how once they were under his influence, he was able to get them to do just about anything, and convince them that it was the right thing to do, be it participate in orgies, or murder innocent victims, in his attempts to foster a race-war. And it closes out by covering the arrest of the murderers, their (many months long) trial, and the aftermath.

Bottom line, the documentary manages to cover a lot of territory in its six hours, and does so with a large number of more recent "first person" accounts, instead of simply stitching together content from old headlines, or years-old books. If you are at all curious about this "dark" event in our history, and how it came about, then I think that you will find that this documentary will "hold your attention". Just be forewarned that it does contain some graphic content, and as such, it might also continue to play on your mind, long after the documentary is over.
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6/10
WELL DONE BUT A BIT DISAPPOINTING
nreginel3 April 2024
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There us a decent amount of information in this documentary, as apposed to others. I liked the break down of Manson's upbringing and the fact that most of his "teachings" were drawn from other sources.

The bottom line is, he was severely mentally ill. It's not unheard of for a psycho to brainwash followers, people like Jim Jones or that weirdo that got people to commit suicide bc they thought a spaceship would beam them up.... . This was such a brutal crime and such a waste of human life, it stays with us as a society.

There was some parts of interviews that appeared in multiple episodes which I hate in a documentary. They probably could have shortened it by a couple of episodes.
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10/10
Time to put the Manson Family to Bed
jmihalchik-6703131 August 2020
There is absolutely nothing new in the six part series that hasn't been rehashed ad nauseam. (I chose to give it 10 stars because the trove of TV footage, interviews, and previously unseen photos was enough to make it an intense viewing.)

Considering the glut of new information that came out in print during the 50th anniversary of the murders, I was disappointed that the series didn't probe some of the much more convincing theories.

We are left with the tired "Helter Skelter"-- a motive that has been laughed out of most investigative circles, and proven Bugliosi's "facts be damned" obsession with convicting Manson.

"Helter Skelter" will go into the history books as the accepted version of what happened in August of 1969. But for the small percentage of the population that refuse to take the media's word for it, it is not that simple. The more logical theories of drug burns and a very seedy Hollywood underbelly cannot compete with a real life boogeyman.

So Tex Watson, the man who did most of the damage, inflicted most of the stab wounds, and had a direct hand in seven murders will die in obscurity. And the victims will be remembered as wide eyed innocents, despite mountains of evidence to the contrary (Sebring and Frykowski were well known drug dealers. The Tate residence was Geound Zero for wild drug parties and pornographic films involving everyone from Mama Cass to Yuel Brenner). No one will know Jack Nickolson was among friends who removed damaging film reels in the living room loft while the bodies were still warm.

In the end, it's probably safer that we believe documentary series like "Helter Skelter". When we start peeling back the layers, the truth is far more terrifying than a 5' 2" failure and his group of degenerate hippies.
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9/10
Finally a detailed story on this, but redundacy occurs often.
johnwiu9 December 2020
Great documentary that really tells the full story in one series, for a 35 y/o dude. Only problem is that Episode 1 doesn't chrnologically fit & then several scenes after (incl episode 1 scenes) are replayed several times to a "T" in 1-2 min stretches & almost makes you think you selected an episode you already watched.
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10/10
The Definitive Look At The Manson Murders & Trial
dtrobb31 August 2020
Six hours. Six episodes. Or, rather, take away the openings and closings of each of the six episodes and it's probably 6 x 54 mins. Call it 5 1/2 hours. The definitive Manson murders and trial film. I have not one bad thing to say about the film. I watched each episode weekly. So, maybe watching it in 2 1/2 hour blocks or so would be a different viewing experience. Each episode offers a lot to digest. I guess there's some controversy about whether the murders were committed by the Manson cult to instigate a coming race war. Whatever. Why is that important? Prosecutor and subsequent author Vincent Bugliosi correctly put the theory in front of the jury to make sure Manson was convicted, even though he obviously was absent at the time of the 7 Tate - La Bianca atrocities. (post edit) Omg. It just came into focus reading the other 2 reviews. The reason the Helter Skelter theory is dismissed is because some think the deep state pedophilia porn and drug users/dealers did it. Wow. Guessing to them, Manson, Watson, and the girls are patsies. smh.

Post post edit. It's been 9 days since I posted my review. A few things have stayed in my mind about this documentary. 1. The Dennis Wilson house takeover by the Manson clan. Wilson allowed them to move in en masse because, I guess, he liked naked girls walking about. The fact he had to sell the house and move to get rid of them from his life is interesting. But, obviously, he brought it upon himself. 2. The story by one of the Manson girls in a present day interview segment about how she wanted to have sex with Charley and he was a little rough. That was exceedingly bizarre and creepy that she felt the need to share that with us. 3. The stories first hand of how the girls were picked up by Charley one by one. All went with him gladly and stayed in his group willingly. 4. Charley learning Dale Carnegie techniques in prison seems a bit far fetched.
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1/10
Meanwhile back at the ranch
lucifer_over_tinseltown7 September 2020
Why put "An American Myth" in the title, then do absolutely nothing to debunk it? Instead we get the same old codswallop that is Bugie's insufferably implausible Helter Skelter theory repeated ad nauseum/ad infinitum. You know, the one he hawked to stroke his tumescent ego (way bigger than Charlie's) and sell millions of books. Sure this latest documentary has style for miles, but there is a shocking paucity of substance and substantiation. Awfully good to hear from the somewhat enlightened members of "the Family" like Gypsy Share and the immensely talented Bobby Beausoleil (listen to the music he recorded on instruments made from scratch in the hoosegow, Charlie wishes he had that kind of innate talent). Also, it was cool to see interview footage of the lone surviving Golden Penetrator, Gregg Jakobson, too. Aside from those three, just forget about it. A murderer's row of sleepy-looking talking heads telling you nothing new. Perpetuating a L.I.E. Here's a book you should read if you are thirsty for a new angle, seismic revelations, a complete paradigmatic shift in your perception of this eternally titillating mystery (yes, it still is a mystery, even if we already know how it happened and who did what to whom, the nagging why still lingers). Read Tom O'Neill's incredible and damn brave book, CHAOS. It's a true game changer. Much like Jonestown, it was all a C.I.A. MK-ULTRA mind control experiment gone awry. Find out how a semi-illiterate, hapless conman like Manson learned how to control an entire phalanx of malodorous, feckless hippies and turn them into merciless, reckless killers via LSD and ego negation. I was shocked that O'Neill did not appear on this show. He solved the riddle. Debunked the myth. And before you brand me with the label Conspiracy Theorist rather than Whistleblower, know that many actual family members of the victims, such as Sharon's sister, Debra are fellow proponents of Tom's book, too. It just makes more sense than the absurd White Album theory. Plus it isn't a grave disservice to the victims who are honored rather than blamed. The violence is abstracted rather than glorified in gory detail. The truth of CHAOS comes down fast, but it's miles above Helter Skelter.
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9/10
loved the retrospective
ricewithaspoon8 October 2020
I really loved the retrospective on his origins, especially the original footage from that time. many interviews with people who knew his mum and him when he was little. i cannot find much fault in this project. to me it was not in any way an attempt to justify his actions.. i loved it because it attempted to show the path he walked and painted a psychological picture that way.

& no, i would not "put the 'manson-story' to bed" .. reviewer jmihalchik-67031 mentioned some things that i find interesting & unsettling - & curbed my interest in his 5th paragraph. now we need another documentary going into that...
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9/10
Like The Boogieman, Manson Is Part Of Our Psyche
briled-3753116 May 2021
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At one point in the 8 part series "Helter Skelter', in a mid-1970's interview, Manson is asked from prison about never being free again. He replies that he is 'free inside everyone of our minds'. He has planted his consciousness inside the fears of anyone who dared pay attention to him - and thanks to a sensationalized media, he is now part of history - and ours.

A quick search on Youtube reveals no shortage of views (we're talking millions) for many Manson-related clips and interviews. If he is not crawling in our brains, then he is at least lurking around the internet. If you take these many docs, interviews, and add books like prosecutor Bugliosi's 'Helter Skelter' and Ed Sanders' 'The Family', one might get a picture of Manson and his followers' psyche and how it all really went down. This new doc seems to take all those elements and balance the 'when & where' with the bigger questions: 'how' & why?'.

It's morbid fascination, how all-American kids can be 'turned' into cold blooded murderers by an ex-pimp with a (phoney?) Jesus complex and mind-bending drugs at his disposal.

However, this twisted patriarch figure didn't come out of nowhere - an incarcerated prostitute mother, and an uncaring and domineering uncle, set the stage for Manson's turbulent life as a criminal.

Watching what circumstances led him to become, is sad and engrossing stuff. When Manson cried for his absent mother when he was 4, his uncle told him to stop and: "be a man!". When Charlie 'ordered' Bobby Beausolieil and Tex Watson to kill for him separately, his words both times, were the same: "Be a man!". His conditioned childhood reared its ugly head. Disloyalty was abandonment. Manipulation was survival.

Between Manson's relatively recent death media splash and Tarantino's alt-universe 'Once Upon A Time in Hollywood', and now 'Helter Skelter' , Charlie is not going away anytime soon. He got our attention, even from beyond the grave. He never shied away from the spotlight, in life, on trial, and especially in death. Manson lives, even if you don't want him to.

Half a century later, in America, the theme of 'the blind following the blind' may never be more appropriate, and it's good to know why.
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8/10
its pretty ok
dion_pangallo3 September 2020
But obviously a sugar coated version of what really happened there and following with mansons trials and ridiculous "white privilege" type of sentencing LOL. stupid sick people are gonna do stupid sick things.. that is just how american society is and will never change. all that being said, interesting how 2020 america is basically fulfilling the manson prophecy.. hmm

and damn.. that rose ann mourehouse is smokin! id've joined a cult just to get in dem pants he he
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1/10
What's New? Nothing!
royalttt30 August 2020
Another Manson media venture which reinforces the same old Helter Skelter story which has been told and retold before with the same cast; e.g., Jeff Guinn, Dianne Lake, Stephen Kay, etc. Though Catherine 'Gypsy' Share and Stephanie Schram bring new voices to the cast, what would be refreshing would be an interview with Charles Tex Watson.

Expectations of a different angle to Charles Manson and the family story are initially suggestive with the alternative title of this Helter Skelter series, which bears 'American Myth' in its name. Some may hope that revelations may arise in this six-parter which may hint that the Helter Skelter plot in the Manson trial could be a myth ... alas no.

It's the same-ol'-same-ol' story.

Nevertheless, if a viewer wants an account of this 'myth' in a less one-sided manner, then Rob Zombie's "Charles Manson: The Final Words" is a much better, less time-consuming, more balanced view on Manson. One which we suggest you watch rather than this disappointment.
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5/10
Broad Subject
cdesantis-729538 August 2021
It was a mish mash. Why repeat clips? Charles Manson's history has been recounted in other documentaries and I suspect many others skipped that episode. Boring!

The strength was the footage at the time of the murders. I know so much work was put into it but it needs more editing and less jumping around.
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3/10
Repeated segments over and over
mafdenver14 March 2022
I love historical documentaries - especially looking back at my own generation. This would have been a great documentary - in three episodes. The first episode is repeated in entirety throughout the series. Other segments are repeated throughout the series. A few times, I actually stopped the DVD to see if somehow I skipped back to the beginning. How to make Manson more boring than he already was? There you go.
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5/10
Same old rehash with a few new pictures.
usrmilo24 September 2021
Had it not been for the Roman Polanski/celebrity slant for the mainstream media to exploit, Charles Manson and family would have been a much shorter version of 'just another '60s hippie cult' story.

Repeating detective statements and medical examiner findings just sensationalizes what happened all over again. As for Charles Manson, his parroting of the media to the media was just an attempt to keep his idea of himself alive.

Interviews weren't fresh and were subject to the editing of hindsight. Bury the bones and move on.
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