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5/10
Holy Death...It's me, Roberto.
lastliberal5 June 2010
I don't care how bad the reviews are, the chance to see Paz Vega (Sex and Lucia, Spanglish, The Other Side of the Bed) means I will watch it.

As a bonus it has Claire Forlani from Meet Joe Black. I like her, too.

We are treated to violent flashbacks, gratuitous nudity from strippers and prostitutes and vaguely supernatural facial distortions in an attempt to distract us from the bad acting and bad script.

Similar to Taken, it also has elements of A History of Violence. Of course, come may recall Eyes Wide Shut at certain points. In other words, there is nothing original as this film is capitalizing on Simon Baker's popularity as The Mentalist.

Jack/Roberto is not the only one with a secret.
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4/10
Tries to be more original than it is
bobby_mak25 November 2009
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I've been looking for a nice mystery movie to see and I came across Not Forgotten. After reading the many positive reviews here I decided that this is my movie! After watching it though, I was slightly disappointed. Maybe I just expect too much of a mystery, or maybe I have just seen way too many now and could figure out some of the things myself (not all though).

Throughout the movie I had the feeling that they had a much larger story to tell, but they just didn't have the time for it and so they just decided to tell as much as they can in 90 min, leaving a lot of things unexplained or undeveloped, at least for me. The story is interesting and has potential, but they way it was carried out was not so good in my opinion. I didn't really care for any of the characters. I thought they were presented quite...whats the word I am looking for..emotionless? I didn't feel that both Simon Baker and Paz Vega really cared for their characters. They are acceptable actors in general, but there was just something off here. I felt as if they just went through the script without putting too much in it. For some reason, this was very obvious to me during the movie. It just couldn't engage me.

As I mentioned before, they put way too many details that are left without explanation. OK, this really works for certain types of mysteries, but not really for this one. You just think "Why?". They would have been better off leaving some of them out. They constantly put new characters in and you wonder "Who are you? Why are you important?". Some events are also left completely unexplained. I don't want to give out any spoilers for the people who haven't seen it, but I will just say that I was not really impressed.

In general, it is a mystery with a good idea, but a mystery that tried to appear too original when in fact it really isn't. And trying so hard is what fails it.

It is definitely a movie I will soon Forget.
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4/10
all atmosphere and no thrills
Buddy-5120 June 2010
"Not Forgotten" probably won't do much to enhance U.S./Mexico relations. Set in Del Rio, Texas, a town located just north of the border, this thriller stars "The Mentalist"s Simon Baker as a loan officer whose daughter is kidnapped by a bloodthirsty religious cult that, we're told, has achieved widespread notoreity in Mexico.

"Not Forgotten" - which is strong on atmosphere and milieu and weak on anything even remotely resembling suspense - features all the red herrings, false leads and narrative blind alleys that we've come to expect from such films, with each of the characters harboring some deep dark secret from the past that, when it is finally revealed, turns out to be a surprise only to the other characters in the story. For, indeed, when the most likely suspect turns out to be the actual culprit in the end, you know that the screenplay could probably have used a few more runs through the typewriter before going before the cameras.
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Want to see an interesting movie?
zackmurray17 July 2008
I went to preview screening at 20th century Fox and I would say this is a solid thriller along the lines of "8 mm"… As an audience member, I was intrigued right up until the very last line (which totally creeped me out, by the way). There's a MAJOR twist that I really didn't see coming; at that point, I realized this was no ordinary thriller. Paz Vega's performance is awesome--- maybe one of her best ever (I'm biased though; I think she's fantastic). Very subtle—she really draws you in. And Simon Baker is a great match for her.

In short: if you like smart, suspenseful, creative, original movies, see this movie.
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3/10
What a Mess!
claudio_carvalho9 February 2010
In Del Rio, in the border of Texas and Mexico, the female teen-soccer coach Jack Bishop (Simon Baker) is very popular and he loves his eleven year-old daughter Toby (Chloe Moretz) and her stepmother Amaya (Paz Vegas). When Toby is kidnapped, Amaya's cousin, the rookie Sheriff Casper Navarro (Michael DeLorenzo), is in charge of the investigation, but sooner the FBI arrives in town to lead the hunt. However, Navarro and Jack travel to Mexico following a lead and the hidden past of Jack returns to haunt him.

"Not Forgotten" is an intriguing thriller that uses the mysticism of the Mexican cult "La Santa Muerte" and has a promising beginning. The cast has names like Paz Vega and Simon Baker in the lead roles and Claire Forlani with a minor participation. Unfortunately the resolution of the original story is simply awful and messy, wasting all the potentiality of the plot with a terrible conclusion. My vote is three.

Title (Brazil): "Regresso do Além" ("Return From Beyond")
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3/10
I Want To Forget
David_Hudson-122 September 2009
I was open minded when I chose to see this film but I have to say that this film was NOT good. I thought the story left enough to play with but in the end the film fails to impress. There is not so much plot twists but instead the introduction of characters you learn nothing about.

It is slow paced and there is very little importance on the build up so I was bored watching it. I found some parts quite silly like the brake out of jail. There was a lot of detail missing in the film and too many questions left unanswered. You could save a lot of time by simply watching the repeated scene throughout the film and the ending because that's just about all that happens.

I would be embarrassed to recommend this film to friends and this is one film I will want to forget in a hurry.
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2/10
Bit of a slow movie....it took me a while...
marctg1725 June 2008
I saw an advanced screening of this movie, and it was definitely a slow movie, I thought, because...well first of all...some things were a bit confusing towards the end; and I personally thought the storyline, well when you read about it online it may sound better, but after I saw the movie I thought the storyline was really weak.

The acting was decent/decent-OK. The music is eh-eh-so-so. I wouldn't recommend it to my friends, only if they had seen everything or if nothing interested them and I'd say, "OK, well, check this one out and tell me what you think."

Simon Baker's acting is pretty - OK - to - good. Paz Vega is a fairly decent actress. This obviously and of course is just my opinion. Those who have some curiosity and interest in seeing it, go ahead and check it out and "leme know what you think."
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2/10
Awful
jingleman24 November 2010
A poor plot, badly acted and lacking in anything approaching suspense or excitement. The premise for the film is fine and if you read the plot outline then you tend to think that this film will be OK even if it hasn't been produced on the biggest budget and perhaps is lacking in the A-List star department. If I've seen a worse movie this year then I have been lucky enough to have erased it from my memory. To see Chloe Moretz in truly outstanding form in a great film then watch her star as Hit Girl in Kick Ass and not be embarrassed this lumbering shambles. I did just manage to stick it out the the bitter end of this movie but in all honesty I'm not sure how !! I gave it two stars and it was lucky to get these.
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1/10
disgustingly sexist, degrading and lame
jenb252522 October 2010
I wish I could give this film a zero. The producer obviously likes to have an endless display of non stop naked women. I mean gimme a break! we GET it. Did it really have to go so over the top? it was totally degrading and disrespectful to women. To have a woman push her freakin T_ts up against a car and rub them all over watching them press against the glass, to strip club scene after strip club scene and women propping up their boobs and shaking them....endless. I thought I was watching a soft core porn or the ultimate revenge of PORKYS. When a director has to stoop this low, to me it shows he lacks creativity and is using women as shock value to "capture" his audience (lame) and WOW so origonal. Aside from the gratuitous female nudity, it was OK. I probably would have actually given it a few stars but I am still so morbidly offended that I wish I couldn't even give it 1. lousy. director and writers are perverted womanizing pigs. tone it down next time for christs sake. If you are that hard up, go buy a playboy,....women like to watch movies too ya know. It doesn't always have to have an enormous amount of raunchy nudity in it. thats what porns for.
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7/10
Better Than Any Weird Al Music Video
gavin69425 November 2009
Jack Bishop (Simon Baker, "Land of the Dead") is your typical American. A beautiful wife and daughter, nice home, coach of the soccer team. But things go horribly awry one day when his daughter Toby (young horror veteran Chloe Moretz) goes missing... has she been brought across the border to become a prostitute? Or is she the victim of a known sex offender? Jack will stop at nothing to find out, even if he must reveal his own secret past.

I had little familiarity with the people who made this film, beyond Chloe Moretz, who has been the girl in more or less ever horror film for five years -- and I'm not complaining. Paz Vega played a strong lead, although the rumor is she replaced Jordana Brewster, a friend of Killer Reviews. With all due respect to Brewster, I think Vega was the right casting choice -- she had the elegance, the versatility and the pluck to be the multi-faceted character she needed to be. Rounding out the notable cast is Claire Forlani ("Mallrats"), with a far too small role as the prostitute Katie.

Simon Baker, who was not known to be (I have not seen TV's "The Mentalist"), was a commanding lead in every sense of the word. A devoted father, mysterious possible suspect, heroic ex-thug. I felt he was a natural for every position he was put into. As the plot twists and turns (which is really another strength of this film -- I had to keep guessing) he is able to roll with it and make every thing believable.

Horror fans will enjoy this film, though it's not horror in any strict sense. It's a dark mystery thriller, with a cult, some epic violence -- one of the most brutal beatings I have ever seen on film -- and some creepy imagery. I was visually seduced. There's also some decent action and suspense... not too much romance (sorry, ladies) and a spattering of humor, but only just the bare minimum, keeping the film tense and taut.

I found the film to have an interesting social and political commentary, though I don't feel it was intentional. Over the last several years, there have been a few horror films with a Mexican flavor, such as "All Soul's Day" and "The Dead One". By and large, these were failures. "Not Forgotten" has a strong American/Mexican theme, with border crossings and international crime being a key undercurrent. How accurate these are, I do not know -- I live in Wisconsin where we see more Canadians than Mexicans. But the way the border was portrayed struck me as fascinating and believable, as well as timely in a culture where fear of immigrants comes to a head again and again. This film portrayed Mexicans as both heroes and as ruthless killers, not stereotyping them one way or another, and I found that to be very honest.

"Not Forgotten" is a straight-to-DVD release, but don't let that fool you into thinking it's less than great. Even with my sporadically short attention span (I often require friends and/or booze to get through a film in one sitting) I could not remove my eyes from this movie. A pure win from beginning to the amazing twist at the end. Could a prequel or sequel be in the works?
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4/10
Rated "R" for... retarded.
LovinMoviesMakinGames28 June 2010
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I'd say about 80% of the way into the movie my girlfriend and I were loving it. I'd give it a 9/10... everything, the acting, the scenery, story everything was compelling.

Then we are hit with ridiculous implausible twist after twist, leaving us not caring an ounce about anything or anyone. The premise.. the father with the dark past was great. Even the true history of his ex wife. Past that point, the story, along with the movie goes straight to the toilet bowl, leaving us hating the Jackass who wrote it for stringing us along.

Sometimes with these ridiculous revenge plots, we just lose belief.
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9/10
4.8...??? Seriously...? I don't know what these people are smok'n. An extremely well done, powerful Thriller. Simon Baker really ROX this one...
lathe-of-heaven27 July 2013
I've LONG given up trying to understand the people who rate films here; truly, it is just WAAAAAAAAY beyond me...

I can honestly find no flaw in this film what so ever. The mood, atmosphere, acting, look, soundtrack, and especially the direction are DEAD on.

I love this kind of film where you really do NOT know everything at the beginning and things are indeed not what they seem. Truly an excellent story and beautifully told. If my life depended on it, I would be at a total loss to find ANYTHING that would make ANYONE not like this movie.

The suspense (really helped by superb direction and editing) was slowly but relentlessly built as the story goes on. And this is certainly just about the best performance I've ever seen from Simon Baker. I really like the twists too; I promise you, you will NOT see them coming. The ONLY thing that you might say is a bit of a stretch is the 'conversion' at the end (that shouldn't give too much away : ) I could see people perhaps having a little trouble buying into the change of attitude. Like I say, I DON'T want to give too much away, but that is really about THE only part that might not set perfectly with some people. But even with that said, it still in NO way diminishes the excellent quality of the film that precedes it.

If you like movies that are very well made and your Thrillers Dark with just a touch of the otherworldly 'tastefully' thrown in, and you like powerful twists that pack a solid punch, then you should very much enjoy this film.
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7/10
" Not all the buried bodies have been forgotten, some live for revenge "
thinker16918 June 2010
There are certain primitive cultures which definitely believe in Vodoo and the Black Arts. Others subscribe to the superstitious belief in a Christian God, sacred relics, prayer and chants. In this film written by Tomas Romero and directed by Dror Sonef, one is offered both. Filmed and played out in a Tex-Mex town along the U.S. Mexican border, the story concerns Jack Bishop, (Simon Baker) a Former hit-man and assassin, now a soccer coach, his daughter Toby (Chloe Moretz) and his second wife Amaya (Paz Vega). Despite his first wife's death, Jack believes he has found happiness until his twelve year old daughter is kidnapped, which sends his world tumbling. Jack places good faith in the sheriff Casper Navarro (Michael Dell Lorenzo), his brother-in-law to return her. The case is slow, but surprisingly reveals several strange clues to the F.B.I agents (Mark Rolston and Gedde Watanabe). They believe they should be looking for their suspect close to home. The movie is a shallow copy of 'Taken' but with gratuitous nudity, dramatic violence and savage brutality, does add a creepy, shadowy black magic and murderous multi-plots to an otherwise suspenseful action movie. Given patience, you might enjoy the film, otherwise it's not for the squeamish. ***
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2/10
Outrageously racist, sexist and poorly filmed.
ia-luis28 January 2012
Stereotypical, very "80's" vision of racial/cultural differences in the Mexico-US border.

In a few words: Women are moody whores, Latinos are ignorant ill-intended savages and the blonde-haired Saxons should avoid all contact with Mexicans and their evil ways. In cinematography and narrative, the film is not boring but it is quite cheap. The artistic direction and the editing are the work of dilettantes and the "style" effects, coloring and lights are almost awkward to watch.

The saddest part: I'm pretty sure the dude who made this "wild cannibal eating white people" cliché dumb-fest doesn't even realize how wrong he is.

Sorry for any eventual grammar mistake, English is not my first language.
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If you'll like dark & twisty, you'll like it...
patricia080415 July 2008
I love dark, twisted movies, and this is definitely right up there... an awesome thriller!

All of the religious rituals are pretty disturbing (but incredibly fascinating). The idea these people really exist and actually practice these rituals freaked me out!

All in all, I thought it was thought provoking, the performances were great, and the ending was entirely unexpected. I got the feeling there might be a sequel; if that's the case, I would definitely see it too.

Long story short: If you're into thrillers with some brains, then you'll really like Not Forgotten.
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5/10
I love direct dvd movies
yusufpiskin6 March 2020
Has an off-kilter B-movie charm, an intriguing mystery, and great Mexican atmosphere, but never becomes absurd enough to really be a B-movie classic. At times it looks like it as shot on video, which is surprising since this is apparently from 2009, but it's not too shabby looking overall. Simon Baker gets pretty fun the more intense his character gets but the supernatural elements never really pay off in a satisfying way. Doing some research while the credits roll tells me this was funded through a scientology ponzi scheme, and the financiers faced and I think a movie about that might be better, but not bad as far as straight-to-video stuff goes and it's free on Tubi.

Ps' Chloe Grace Moretz would keep her role either way tho. She was a great child actor but I think her career is going the way of Dakota Fanning, the style of acting doesn't transition to adulthood as well.
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4/10
Certainly forgotten
youngsteve8 March 2024
I really wanted to like this movie, & watched it all the way through hoping it would be good, but unfortunately it never did. Plot, with young daughter getting kidnapped was good, & the reveals about who the main character really was, but it never really got going, & the conclusion was poor. Simon Baker was good, whith Chloe Moretz giving her usual watchable performance. Weakest part was his wife. Paz Vega, who whispered & mumbled throughout, & struggled to hear what she was saying, despite keep turning the sound up.

All in all a disappointing film, & one I wont be watching again, like so many others that promise much & fail to deliver.
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7/10
Either you love it or hate it
vojadtpirfit10 April 2012
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I just don't get how can people hate this movie. The cast is good, the story is good, and damn the plot twist at the end is insane. Though for some people it is insanely good or insanely irritating.

This movie is all about terror, I've never seen a movie that gives you pure terror like this.

The ending was definitely the most important part. At the beginning you would thought that this is the kind of movie like Taken or other kidnapping movie, but the end will really (maybe) get you.

I guess to understand and love this movie, you have to have "that" dark thing in yourselves. I personally loved it.

*** Spoilers Alert **** There's one thing though that I want the viewers to understand, no one won the battle. Jack/Roberto thought he had won but he has actually been fooled. And the St.Muertes maybe got their hands on Toby, and Toby's mind has been injected by the cult's persuasion. But will she did it or not is out of the question.

It maybe sounds corny and all but its all about the battle between love and evil, will Roberto's love wins Toby's heart, or the muerte will conquer Toby?
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10/10
A Must-See!
girllovesmovies2723 July 2011
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*May contain spoilers* Incredibly good writing and story! This is definitely a dramatic thriller. The pacing of the film is perfect. Revelations are made at just the right moment- it's like a blurry image slowing coming into clarity. The acting is brilliant, nothing fake or contrived there. Massive kudos to everyone involved in this film! I'm not sure if I ever saw this in previews or if it had a wide release in theaters, BUT if it had I would have paid to see it! I caught this on a movie channel and was surprised to see a movie channel show a brilliant film like this and wondered IF Hollywood was paying any attention. More films like this need to be made and given wide release. Watching this film is more than a breath of fresh air. Hollywood, give up on the stupid comedies and show real brilliantly made films for once!
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6/10
4.8 is very unfair ...
amirnikooei17 October 2021
I do not understand why the rate of this movie is so low! I think it had both an interesting story and a good performance by the actors. A score of 4.8 is very unfair. I saw this movie because of Simon Baker, of course, and maybe my great interest in him (especially as Patrick Jane) made me enjoy this movie more.
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Really cool movie...
joesmithjoe23715 July 2008
This screening that people are talking about was actually a TEST screening, not an advance screening... aka, it's a TEST to see what people like and don't like, and then they fix things... as for the music, what we heard during the test was actually temporary music. I heard a rumor that Mark Isham (Crash, River Run Trough It, etc) is doing the music for Not forgotten, so that should be pretty great....

I would DEFINITELY recommend this movie. Personally, I thought it had some really great twists and turns, and had a really cool dark feel to it, and a fascinating view of the dark underbelly of Mexico's low lives...Seriously, I did not see the ending coming at ALL. If I had to compare it to something, I would say it's like "Traffic" meets "A History of Violence". Oh, and obviously, Paz Vega's really hot.
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6/10
"Isn't it funny how people get all religious when things go wrong?"
Bored_Dragon28 April 2020
"Isn't it funny how people get all religious when things go wrong?"

Quite an interesting psychological thriller, with a dark and mystical atmosphere. Not particularly good quality, but the acting is decent, and the ending twist is really unexpected and compelling. I watched it for Chloë Grace Moretz who, though her role is small, is the strongest asset of this film.

6/10
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9/10
October 2008--Review of NOT FORGOTTEN
javier-12421 October 2008
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Not Forgotten has it all. I didn't know what to expect from noted commercial director Dror Soref, but what I got was a first class production that well exceeded my expectations for a "night at the movies."

The movie is a thriller, and a thrill-ride, in that it takes very unexpected twists and turns throughout—almost from the get-go. What was refreshing about this film was that it always stayed several steps ahead of the audience. Most modern audiences figure out films too easily. I can emphatically state that this will not be the case in Not Forgotten.

The tale follows a family living in Del Rio, Texas—a typical border town, between the US and Mexico. Although it starts off with scenes of girls' soccer games and hot dogs in the town squares, it quickly takes a turn to a darker side into the occult—the Santa Muerte cult (which roughly translates into "Holly Death").

When the daughter of successful bank manager is kidnapped, it sparks a chain of events that don't stop igniting until the very end. This is the story of Jack Bishop (Baker) delving into his past in order to find his only daughter. Not only does the search involve the entire community of worshiping denizens of Del Rio, it encompasses the seeder inhabitants of the dark, back alleys and brothels of towns just South of the Border. It also takes us into up close and personal with the depths that humanity can fall to—to view it face to face. But the most chilling aspect was the narration by the kidnapped Toby Bishop. It's particularly haunting, as she's narrating days after her disappearance—at her own vigil.

Considering the frightfully frequency of female abductions in the US border town—the film touches on the "what if"—in this case, what if the preteen Toby has been taken to Mexico and forced into prostitution. Her father states in no uncertain terms the lengths he is willing to go, the depths he will travel to find his daughter—no matter what he has to do find her abductors. In the words of Toby Bishop, "There are just some things that you can't ask the Virgin for…"

Baker's transformation is enthralling. From soccer coach dad, to terrifyingly revengeful about getting his daughter back. No more mister nice guy isn't even close when he his got the perpetrators in his sights. The sheer brutality and Baker's cold dedication, make this one of those scenes that you can't forget.

Not Forgotten is told in classic storytelling fashion—in the vein of Hitchcock. It is beautifully shot and full of surprising details. The cast, not just the leading but all of the supporting characters are tremendously strong—making this a very well crafted tale. The director is an imaginative filmmaker who creates art with suspense.

It is definitely one to see again as all the clues now come to the surface—missed cinematic gems along the tumultuous path that leads one to its powerful conclusion.

That is NOT FORGOTTEN.
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A great mystery thriller flick
crossborders7 November 2008
This is a great movie. I haven't found any good suspense/mystery thrillers lately, and Not Forgotten has finally relieved that. I personally love a good suspense thriller with mind game twists. The depth of the story was refreshing, and it always kept me guessing as to what was going to happen next. And the ending, well I'll just say I never saw it coming.

Simon Baker's acting was spot on, and Paz Vega was a great compliment. They really worked as an enticing lead pair. Although Cloe Moretz might not get as much screen time as the other main actors in the film, she still maintains a powerful role throughout the film. This movie is definitely worth seeing.

Their website is awesome too.
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9/10
Must Watch Movie for Mystery Lovers
carrygrl29 October 2009
With a wonderfully dark performance by Simon Baker and a plot that takes viewers in a few new directions, Not Forgotten is an extremely well done mystery / suspense / action / thriller.

In an era of sequels, remakes and shock value slashers this is truly a unique movie genre and I highly recommend it. After watching I am even more fascinated by the La Santa Muerte cult / or rogue off shoot of catholicism. A few minutes of surfing the web and you can find an entire page that explains this cult > http://www.santamuertenotforgotten.com/

Watch with a friend so you can discuss afterwards, it's a movie worth purchasing for your personal library. Die hard Simon Baker fans will enjoy his performance and a few bad ass scenes.
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