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8/10
Dominated by Two Actresses
gelman@attglobal.net22 October 2012
This production of Lady Windermere's Fan is dominated by its two female leads, Helena Little as Lady Windermere, and Stephanie Turner as Mrs. Erlynne, a woman with a scandalous past and a gossip ridden present, whom Lord Windermere is seeing regularly and supplying with large amounts of money His young wife suspects the worst. Encouraged by a gossipy visitor, Lady Windermere is convinced that her husband is having an affair with the woman.. Lady Windermere is supposed to be quite young but, if her biographical data is to be believed (and I don't), the beautiful Ms. Little was born in 1970 and therefore only 15 when she performed the role. She looks to be in her early twenties. She manages to capture the range of emotions experienced by Lady Windermere in an altogether winning performance. Ms. Turner is excellent in the somewhat more demanding role of Mrs. Erlynne. It is easy to accept the notion that men would flock to her and that other women would find her both interesting and scandalous. It would be nice to able to report that the other parts in Oscar Wilde's play were handled with equal skill, but that was not the case in my opinion.

There are elements in "Lady Windermere's Fan" that don't quite hang together -- for example, the notion that Lord Windermere would regularly visit a woman whom he despises and that he would not understand why his young wife would object. But Wilde's wit redeems the implausibilities. And this is one Wilde play in a serious rather than entirely satirical vein. If the entire TV film were as good as its two lead actresses, I would have awarded it 10/10
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8/10
Melodramatically funny
Dr_Coulardeau3 July 2019
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Marital life among the aristocratic elite of British society one hundred and thirty odd years ago. Pathetic and melodramatic, but the melodramatic that creates no empathy at all. What's surprising is that Oscar Wilde condescended - for monetary reasons probably - to write such a play, apart from the fact that the aristocratic elite is going to love it because it makes them moral and even human. Mind you, pay attention to the intricacy of the situation. There is no plot, just an intricate situation. Lady Windermere, an orphan in a way who was abandoned by her mother though she was told, and she believed, she died shortly after her birth. She is married to a very rich Lord. A strange woman, meaning a woman whose circumstances are totally unknown of everyone, comes up and she is taken care of by Lord Windermere, which brings up some gossip about his marriage. We know from the very start it is not true and there must be some secret that has to do with Lady Windermere, and sure enough, it will be revealed she is Lady Windermere's mother, right at the end and in total secrecy since only Lord Windermere is in the know.

The peripeteias of the story are trite and entirely based on the imbroglio created by gossip versus blackmail versus revelation versus secrecy. I am sure that the little dog of Chopin's famous waltz has lost his tail in his chase by now. Luckily it is rather perfectly well acted in a beautiful real natural, though mostly made of stone and brick, setting. But what is left after the whole story?

Women are wicked for sure but there is always a good spot somewhere, no matter how evil they may be. In the same way, women are good for sure but there is always a wicked spot somewhere, no matter how good they may be. But we can say exactly the same thing about men, and the whole rigmarole turns around and around like a Merry-go-round in a funfair. Has Oscar Wilde aged? For sure my dear, for sure. He has aged a lot and the dandy of his days has become the ghost of a dandy haunting the opera of our life.

The only thing that is left at the end is that all men and women have secrets and that they all lie when necessary, in the name of their greed, or in the name of their honor, or even in the name of their ethical goodness. Love is the most transient situation that lasts as long as necessary for some advantage in life to be conquered, be it some wealth, or be it a son or a daughter. Apart from that, love is permanent treachery and the truth is that love is blind and has to be as blind as an alley that rhymes with cul-de-sac.

In this play, there are a lot of mottos hammered into us by the setting, the acting, the directing, the music too, and of course the mise-en-abyme that is such a charm in Hollywood. But we are here at the BBC! Sure! Is there a difference between the BBC and Walt Disney? Of course not, and I am sure Steven Spielberg would be flattered to be compared to the BBC. But that does not add one gram of weight and one-eighth of an inch of depth to the play that is just quaint and entertaining, because quaint mainly.

Dr. Jacques COULARDEAU
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9/10
Important record of Wilde at his best
grahamclarke14 August 2006
Like "An Ideal Husband", "Lady Windermere's Fan" explores the nature of marital trust and the pitfalls of perceiving others in an ideal and simplistic manner. It does so with more depth and gravity than "An Ideal Husband" and this fine production particularly emphasizes the serious nature of the play. Wilde's sharp witticisms abound, but he clearly is aiming for a lot more than amusing his audience.

It's played to perfection by Helena Little, Tim Woodward and Stephanie Turner. The BBC could have cast big theatrical names, but instead made the admirable choice of casting lesser known names based upon their formidable talents.

The result is a moving and powerful drama well worth your time. Without any memorable cinematic version of "Lady Windermere's Fan", this production is an important record of Wilde at his best.
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9/10
An outstanding performance
howard.schumann9 April 2007
Stephanie Turner is outstanding as the mysterious Mrs. Erlynne in the BBC's 1985 adaptation of Oscar Wilde's four-act comedy Lady Windermere's Fan: A Play about a Good Woman. One of four works of Oscar Wilde contained in the DVD called The Oscar Wilde Collection, LWF is an engaging story of jealousy and misread motives set among England's upper classes in the 1890s. Lady Windermere (Helena Little) is only nineteen but has already developed a rigid set of Victorian morals, though she remains naive and very innocent. Very much in love with her elegant husband Lord Windermere, played by a devoted but somewhat aloof Tim Woodward, she refuses to listen to rumors about her husband paying unusual attention to another woman, Mrs. Erlynne, until she confirms that her husband has been paying the other woman huge sums of money.

She becomes even more upset when Lord Windermere insists on inviting Mrs. Erlynne to her birthday ball against her vigorous objections. When Mrs. Erlynne appears at the party and dances with her husband, Lady Windermere is vulnerable to the passionate entreaties of Lord Darlington (Kenneth Cranham) who proclaims his love and asks her to leave her husband. Mrs. Erlynne, upon discovering Lady Windermere's plans, follows her and tries to stop her from what she considers a reckless and unwarranted action. The ending is full of surprising twists and turns that can only be called astonishing but very revealing of how we often jump to unwarranted conclusions about people.

Lady Windermere's Fan contains the usual acerbic wit of Wilde, whose brilliant career was shortened by his society's relentless Puritanism. Among the more famous quotes from the play are: "Experience is the name everyone gives to their mistakes", "I can resist everything except temptation", and "History is merely gossip. But scandal is gossip made tedious by morality." The highlight of the play is the passionate speech by Mrs. Erlynne as she attempts to persuade Lady Windermere from making the same mistakes she made in her life.

Perhaps echoing Wilde's own experience with his treatment from society, she says, "You don't know what it is to fall into the pit, to be despised, mocked, abandoned, sneered at--to be an outcast! to find the door shut against one, to have to creep in by hideous byways, afraid every moment lest the mask should be stripped from one's face, and all the while to hear the laughter, the horrible laughter of the world, a thing more tragic than all the tears the world has ever shed. You don't know what it is. One pays for one's sins, and then one pays again, and all one's life one pays". Mr. Wilde paid and we were all the poorer.
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10/10
This was my first exposure to this play, and it was spectacular.
lythea-13 October 2008
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I actually thought Helen Little was pretty much perfect throughout. In the beginning she was meant to be a somewhat brittle character, charming but shallow. And so painfully young. I loved her understated acting...the woman playing Gwedolen in "The Importance of Being Earnest" in the same collection almost ruined the whole thing for me. And she just inhabits her part so well, and I found myself caring about her character so much, that I couldn't bear to finish watching the play the first two nights I tried. I hate spoilers more than anyone I know, but in the end I had to make sure she'd be OK before I could finish watching. And she was more than OK, she became a far better person than she started out. It's something that I've never seen done as well, I think, a total break with innocence, with the character remaining remaining good throughout, and stronger afterward.

But even, so she's not as interesting to me in the end as Stephanie Turner, playing Mrs. Erlynne. I suppose I knew this character would be OK, no matter what her circumstance. This was a more dramatic, darker, less innocent role, and I loved to watch her in both her light, flirty, Wildean mode and in her moments of revealing intensity, when she seemed to gain twenty years in a moment. Watching her switch back and forth was one of the amazing things I've seen an actor do. Her story, her character arc, feels incomplete to me in the best possible way. I hope she finds the courage someday to admit her secret. And see, that's what's so great about this story. I have that great feeling of being immersed in the tale even now, long after I stopped watching.
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9/10
Very fine production
sissoed29 November 2006
I'v never seen this play in any form before, whether on stage or video. I found the play excellent and this production very good. This production really deserves more than just three comments (it appears mine is the third. I hope more people see it, and comment on it). The fundamental message of the play is to be understanding of those who appear to have failed the standards we wish they'd upheld, because we can never be sure we know enough about the situation they were in to be able to judge whether they acted well, given the situation they were in. An important and compassionate message. It is similar to much of Jane Austen, in which the characters are so often misjudging the goodness or badness of other characters because they lack sufficient and accurate information about the situations those characters face. In many ways, Lady Windermere's Fan could be a work by Jane Austen. It's a great shame Wilde was born into a society that had so little compassion for him, that it destroyed such an insightful artist who helped all of us gain a better understanding of human nature. As to this particular TV production, I felt the first scene was a little stiff, but then the actors settled into it. I think the production would have benefited by taking a few more liberties with the play, in the manner in which the 1950s Anthony Asquith movie of The Importance of Being Earnest broke up the opening scene from the play into a couple of scenes, in different locations. All the language and characters would be there, but there would be more motion, more activity. It would have given the production more vitality at the outset. Also, one thing a play needs -- indeed, any story needs -- right at the outset is a character who engages you emotionally, so you want to see what happens to her or him, whether bad or good. In this, I didn't feel it, until the actor playing Lord Windermere, Tim Woodward, entered. Lady Windermere should have been much more vulnerable and engaging at the outset -- I don't know whether the fault lies with Wilde, for not writing her that way, or the director, for not directing the actress that way, or the actress, for not playing it that way, but whoever is to blame, it made the first five minutes or so hard to care about, until Woodward came on. Woodward was excellent all the way through -- very natural and convincing acting, and he has a wonderful voice. I checked on IMDb and discovered he is the son of one of my favorite actors, Edward Woodward (Breaker Morant, TV's The Equalizer, and one of my favorite roles, Sir Samuel Hoare in Winston Churchill the Wilderness Years). This son Tim is distinctive and effective in his own way, I would like to see him in more roles.
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9/10
It's just as Wilde wrote it!
fisherforrest19 August 2006
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This literal translation to the screen of Wilde's play is rather stiffly acted, but otherwise presents it well. As for the play itself, Wilde indulges in his usual caustic and cynical quips about the life he saw around him in late Victorian England, so it can be called a comedy. That's in the same sense that Chekov called his plays comedies, and Saroyan called one of his "The Human Comedy". The difference is that Wilde didn't mind putting in a lot of "yucks" in his plays. But here, also, there is a sense of bitterness not found in, say, "The Importance of Being Ernest". Well, at least, he provided a "happy ending" for everyone, unconvincing as it may seem, but then "Mrs. Erlynne" was very clever as well as good.
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9/10
More Wilde Quotes
howardmorley12 September 2013
To augment the quotes mentioned by above user Howard Schumann, I would add my own favourite Wilde quote from this play, "We are all in the gutter but some of us are looking up at the stars".After seeing a semi-pro version of this play in August 2013, this sumptuous 1985 version has all the hallmarks we have come to expect of BBC costume drama.Amazing attention to detail shown in the set construction (circa 1890), costumes, makeup etc were all evident including a cast of very professional actors, actresses, back stage staff including the direction, everything we have come to expect from BBC costume drama (e.g.the miniseries, Pride & Prejudice 1995).I obtained my DVD version of this production entitled "The Oscar Wilde Collection" Vol.2 (along with "An Ideal Husband" with Keith Michell, Dinah Sheridan and Margaret Leighton).I awarded "Lady Windermere's Fan" 9/10.Well done!
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